LibreSignal
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GNU General Public License v3.0 only | GNU Affero General Public License v3.0 |
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LibreSignal
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Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android
>what does this mean?
Moxie (Signal's founder) has thrown fits in the past over the existence of third-party clients using their servers: https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37#issueco...
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Signal: The Pqxdh Key Agreement Protocol
0: https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37
I push back when anyone recommends Signal because they are fundamentally not an open network.
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Hosting Signal frontend on a local server (Like Signal desktop but through website)
OWS has historically been hostile to third party implementations outside of their clients. There are multiple unofficial options but the only one I've been looking at is the bridge with matrix, though setting up a matrix server just for this is likely overkill.
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After High Court Ruling, Telegram Discloses Names/Numbers/IP of Users
I have to say that I find him fascinating too, but there are a few things that raise my suspicion, but of course do not convict him of anything:
The way he is attacking this alternative Signal client and rules out interoperability:
https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...
Signal was a word before he decided to turn it into a brand.
The signal server source code repo was not updated for a year. Communication intransparent.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa...
I am not even against crypto integration, but I found the choice of MobileCoin odd. Instead of integrating an existing privacy coin or working with the community, he decided to integrate MOB and to be one of their "advisors":
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/24/mobilecoin-moxie-marlinspi...
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mobilecoin
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Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
Is that so surprising? Signal had always a hostile attitude to alternative clients. They have this weird disconnect of the new CEO saying they want to be available to as many people as possible and be a fully commited FOSS app, and then have no version on F-Droid (while Telegram has!) and actively fight alternative clients (see https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...)
Because of this hostility Signal is not a trustworthy organization at all.
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Signal discontinuing SMS support.
LibreSignal existed before Moxie was like “no, don’t”: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal
- Combattez la censure Iranienne en hébergeant un proxy Signal
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Nokia 1680 phone gets new PCB, runs mainline Linux
They have shut down third party clients, and resve the roght to continue that.
https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...
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Office 365 implementing AI to detect employees colluding, leaving and more
1) You need to audit that code, which.. everyone will have to do.
2) https://signal.org/blog/reproducible-android/
> the Signal Android codebase includes some native shared libraries that we employ for voice calls (WebRTC, etc). At the time this native code was added, there was no Gradle NDK support yet, so the shared libraries aren’t compiled with the project build.
a good answer in my opinion, but it means what you run from the play store is not reproducible and thus can never really be confirmed to be what the sources actually include. There are also binary blobs needed for interacting with Google Play.
3) Signal is openly hostile to third party client implementations: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37
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Axolotl: First cross-plattform Signal client
Moxie Marlinspike on May 5th 2016:
> I'm not OK with LibreSignal using our servers, and I'm not OK with LibreSignal using the name "Signal." You're free to use our source code for whatever you would like under the terms of the license, but you're not entitled to use our name or the service that we run.
> If you think running servers is difficult and expensive (you're right), ask yourself why you feel entitled for us to run them for your product.
Moxie Marlinspike left Signal this January[2] 2022.
Whose to say whether there will be any change, but it's been interesting seeing Signal as a somewhat defended property. Although various third party clients/tools/libraries do exist already.
The claim that running servers is expensive would have been more interesting, imo, had there been any viable way to run your own. But for a long while Signal server source code wasn't being updated at all.
[1] https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...
[2] https://signal.org/blog/new-year-new-ceo/
TextSecure
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The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
Moxie's reasons for disallowing Signal distribution via F-droid always rang a little flat to me ( https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/127 ). Lots of chatter about the supposedly superior security model of Google Play Store, and as a result fewer eyes independently building and testing the Signal code base. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but independent and reproducible builds seem like a net positive for everyone. Always struggled to understand releasing code as open source without taking advantage of the community's willingness to build and test. Looking at it in a new light after the XZ backdoor, and Jia Tan's interactions with other FOSS folk.
- WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
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Signal: Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames
Signal has documentation on how to reproduce their Play Store builds and compare them with what you've installed locally:
https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/blob/main/reprod...
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Signal v7.0.0 with phone number privacy
There's nothing on Signal blog as of yet, but Signal's git repository was tagged with v7.0.0 yesterday and we can see from the commit history since the previously tagged version (v6.74.4) that there will be a setting to hide one's phone number [1], as well as disabling the previous default behavior of advertising that one is on Signal to all their contacts already using it [2].
[1] https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/commit/8797236b5... (PNP stands for "Phone Number Privacy")
[2] https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/commit/6097e6c30...
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What are you shocked people are still doing nowadays?
Signal works the same but without the user tracking from Meta/Facebook. Many people use it as well but I'm surprised that a majority sticks to WhatsApp.
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Apple has seemingly found a way to block Android’s new iMessage app
Telegram and Signal solve this.
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Apple Just Confirmed Governments Are Spying on People’s Phones With Push Notifications
Sadly yes: Looks like an open issue 13290 for Signal, sounds like they were/are indeed still interacting through google's push notification service, wat, and per a link at that issue it was a chore for Tutanota to break away once they realised it was a problem some years ago (though at least they thought about it years ago? wtf Signal...)
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Building end-to-end security for Messenger – Engineering at Meta
Here is one: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/tree/main/reprod...
- Are Signal Notifications Encrypted ?
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Facebook & Messenger finally get end-to-end encryption
Rule 1: Posts to r/signal must relate to Signal.
What are some alternatives?
mollyim-android - Enhanced and security-focused fork of Signal.
undiscord - Undiscord - Delete all messages in a Discord server / channel or DM (Easy and fast) Bulk delete
signal-cli - signal-cli provides an unofficial commandline, JSON-RPC and dbus interface for the Signal messenger.
Signal-TLS-Proxy
calyxos-fdroid-repo
duckduckgo-locales - Translation files for <a href="https://duckduckgo.com"> </a>
Signal-Android - Patches to Signal for Android removing dependencies on closed-source Google Mobile Services and Firebase libraries. In branches whose names include "-FOSS". Uses new "foss" or "gms" flavor dimension: build with "./gradlew assemblePlayFossProdRelease".
session-desktop - Session Desktop - Onion routing based messenger
Signal-iOS - A private messenger for iOS.
MaterialAudiobookPlayer - Minimalistic audiobook player
ringrtc