berry VS herbstluftwm

I downloaded the latest release as a zip file here - https://github.com/JLErvin/berry/releases

FWIW, it’s 34KB and while it’s only the source, that seems pretty small. I haven’t gone through the build process to figure out the executable though.

This is a great article and I remember reading it numerous times while I was implementing my own window manager.

For someone interested in working on a really fun and rewarding hobby project a WM is a great one to look into since there are so many resources starting from really small implementations:

- https://github.com/mackstann/tinywm

- https://github.com/venam/2bwm

- https://github.com/dylanaraps/sowm

- https://github.com/dcat/swm

- https://github.com/JLErvin/berry

Which are great at introducing the concepts and allowing you to grok the required libraries.

There are also a bunch of more full featured window managers which will introduce you to more advanced topics:

- https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm

- https://github.com/herbstluftwm/herbstluftwm

- https://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/

- https://github.com/conformal/spectrwm

Gradually as you get more familiar with the ecosystem a few questions will come up:

Should I use X11 or XCB? - I personally used XCB and didn't find it too difficult to interface with, and there are a large number of implementations which use it (2bwm, bspwm, ratpoison, etc) so you shouldn't have an issue with learning more about it. But the documentation is pretty limited. If you are just wanting to write a toy WM than X11 is perfectly fine.

X or Wayland? - If you're wanting to write your first WM as a hobby project than I would recommend X over wayland just due to the much larger amount of reference material and documentation. You will have a much easier time getting your feet wet. Ignore the comments about X dying as it doesn't really matter for a hobby project, since the whole point is to have fun.

Feel free to check out my window manager which is an example of what just reading this blog post and getting inspired can result in: https://github.com/cfrank/natwm

It's exactly how it works but only if you have mutliple screens.

My comment was that, for this reason, 2 or 3 smaller (ish- ~27") 16:9 4k screens [1] (previously, 4–6 even smaller 4:3 screens) works much better for me because I can switch the spaces on my Macbook and i3/Sway virtual desktops on my Linux machine individually for each screen.

If we're talking about having a smaller number of giant screens it would need to be able to be partitioned into logical "zones" for virtual desktops to enable this way of managing sets of windows together, and I've not found anything that really does this, let alone does it well (though honorable mention to HerbstluftWM [2] which I think, with patience, could probably do something pretty close).

[1] preferably 16:10 but that seems to have died out as an aspect ratio :(

[2] https://herbstluftwm.org/

Lately I have been playing with herbstluftwm on Artix with dinit, and I dig it. The way it behaves is quite a bit different from other window managers I have used in the past, and it did take some getting used to at first, but after experimenting with the config for a couple days I ended up with a pretty deadly and very intuitive setup that - despite running on X11 - "feels" more like a proper battlestation for sure...

wm: herbstluftwm

Rules can have once and maxage properties - see hlwm's exec_on_tag.sh script for some inspiration.

A few projects like AwesomeWM, and Herbsluftwm have had discussions on their issue trackers about supporting Wayland but a lot of them devolve into "Hey when will this be ready" style of comments, there's an interest in doing it but nobody is personally willing to take on the challenge

- The commit messages - I run the git version, so I like to read about the latest features and fixes. These tend to be more verbose on a feature or fix than the docs, so it can be more helpful. - https://github.com/herbstluftwm/herbstluftwm/commits/master

It's herbstluftwm, a Window Manager! https://herbstluftwm.org/

The nicities that I pull would be the file browser from ROX, and a tiling window manager such as herbstluftwm. I could do everything I do today without these, such as with a terminal or OpenBSD's 'cwm', but I really enjoy using them!