HumbleUI
babashka
HumbleUI | babashka | |
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5 | 112 | |
1,123 | 3,824 | |
2.6% | 0.9% | |
7.7 | 9.2 | |
7 days ago | 7 days ago | |
Clojure | Clojure | |
Apache License 2.0 | Eclipse Public License 1.0 |
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HumbleUI
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Is Clojure the only language you need?
So you can see, there are really a lot of choices but none of them dominates, which means they all have flaws. You can read a good article from Niki Tonsky where Clojure UI problems are discussed. Also to address the problems Niki Tonsky started the development of a new UI for Clojure, called Humble UI. So now we have one more option :)
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So you're using a weird language
If you don't mind being stuck on Windows you could use Visual C# or Visual Basic, they have edit-and-continue too. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/debugger/edit... I've worked with the SuperTux C# level editor in the past. C# was actually pretty nice for GUI stuff.
There doesn't seem to be a good GUI framework for Clojure. There was Seesaw but it hasn't been updated since 2019. There is a guy developing a new framework https://github.com/HumbleUI/HumbleUI/ but it's WIP. I guess you could sidestep this by making it a webapp and using figwheel.
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The shape of data
UI toolkits: https://github.com/HumbleUI/HumbleUI and https://github.com/phronmophobic/membrane
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Ask HN: Does Java need a modern Java UI toolkit for desktop/web?
Nikita Prokopov is developing Humble UI which is worth keeping a close eye on. (Yes, it's Clojure, but Java interop is bound to emerge if it builds up a critical mass and catches on.)
https://github.com/HumbleUI/HumbleUI/
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The Decline and Fall of Java on the Desktop Part 1 (1999-2005)
I've made a few desktop apps in https://github.com/cljfx/cljfx (e.g., https://www.chronos-desk.com/), and cljfx (JavaFX + Clojure) is amazing and makes for rapid development, not to mention fun. I'm keeping an eye on https://github.com/HumbleUI/HumbleUI, which promises to be a step up.
babashka
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A Tour of Lisps
It also gives you access to Babashka if you want Clojure for other use-cases where start-up time is an issue
https://babashka.org/
- Babashka: Fast native Clojure scripting runtime
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What's the value proposition of meta circular interpreters?
I've tried researching this myself and can't find too much. There's this project metaes which is an mci for JS, and there's the SCI module of the Clojure babashka project, but that's about it. I also saw Triska's video on mci but it was pretty theoretical.
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Adding Dependencies on Clojure Project the Node Way: A Small Intro to neil CLI
Created by the same guy who created babashka which is a way to write bash scripts, node scripts, and even apple scripts using Clojure. A very proficient and influential developer in the Clojure community. This is how borkduke's neil helps us:
- Babashka
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Pure Bash Bible
Not what you asked for but there is Babashka for scripting in Clojure.
https://github.com/babashka/babashka
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Critique of Lazy Sequences in Clojure
Clojure's lazy sequences by default are wonderful ergonomically, but it provides many ways to use strict evaluation if you want to. They aren't really a hassle either. I've been doing Clojure for the last few years and have a few grievances, but overall it's the most coherent, well thought out language I've used and I can't recommend it enough.
There is the issue of startup time with the JVM, but you can also do AOT compilation now so that really isn't a problem. Here are some other cool projects to look at if you're interested:
Malli: https://github.com/metosin/malli
Babashka: https://github.com/babashka/babashka
Clerk: https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk
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Sharpscript: Lisp for Scripting
Being a Clojure addict, I guess I have to leave the obligatory link to Babashka too then: https://github.com/babashka/babashka (Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting)
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Rash – The Reckless Racket Shell
which is now on hiatus. babashka: https://babashka.org
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Are there any languages (that are in common use in companies) and higher-level that give you the same feeling of simplicity and standardization as C?
I've enjoyed babashka for scripting; which is close enough to clojure to allow using some/many libraries; but (probably) not for embedding.
What are some alternatives?
teavm - Compiles Java bytecode to JavaScript, WebAssembly and C
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
membrane - A Simple UI Library That Runs Anywhere
malli - High-performance data-driven data specification library for Clojure/Script.
skija - Java bindings for Skia
joker - Small Clojure interpreter, linter and formatter.
cljfx - Declarative, functional and extensible wrapper of JavaFX inspired by better parts of react and re-frame
nbb - Scripting in Clojure on Node.js using SCI
convex - Convex Main Repository - Decentralised platform for the Internet of Value
clojure-lsp - Clojure & ClojureScript Language Server (LSP) implementation
jdeploy - Developer friendly desktop deployment tool
racket - The Racket repository