ErgoDox
rae-dux
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ErgoDox
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Best Ortholinear Keyboards
https://www.ergodox.io/, been around forever now.
- Ergodox keyboard
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Travel keyboard options
Closest split PCB based design with a Kinesis Advantage thumb cluster, I know of, is the Ergodox Would need tenting to emulate the keywells. Lovingly design and print a case with tenting legs for it? 🤔
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I built a second ErgoDox to keep at the office. This is my first set of MT3 caps and I LOVE them.
Should be in here somewhere: https://github.com/Ergodox-io/ErgoDox
- Gesucht: Ergonomische, mechanische Tastatur mit Nummernblock
- ErgoDox EZ ft. GMK Lunar on Boba U4s. Love.
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Keyboard Latency
> Is ZSA's build known to have latency issues compared to QMK?
ZSA is using a patched QMK - they even let you download the exact source for each firmware build they make for you. At the time when I switched to vanilla QMK (that was already some years ago), ZSA were veeery far behind master; running the latest QMK release fixed a couple of issues for me (like hotplugging the halves), so I guess there could be other improvements? No idea really.
> Would a faster microprocessor help
In the MCU world, latency and clock speed can have a very linear relationship - until they suddenly don't. The microcontroller's job is very simple really: scan the key matrix at a certain frequency, perform key debouncing, compare the current state with the previous, and craft a USB HID packet with key press/release events.
So having twice the clock speed could theoretically let you scan twice as often, so it might let you cut the latency in half. Except we have those pesky physics getting in our way! For simplicity let's assume we don't have split halves (where there's an extra serial connection slowing things down); I'm no EE so I only grasp these concepts at the surface level, but signals take time to propagate, and long traces on the PCB (and cables too) have a tiny bit of their own capacitance. (Capacitors are like really fast, really tiny batteries - but they still take a tiny amount of time to charge and discharge, which does all sorts of interesting things to high-frequency signals.)
On top of that, the electrical connection that the pieces of metal are making inside the switch, are never perfect at the exact instant the switch is supposed to (de)register: a couple electrons might start jumping over the air even before contact is made, and the physical connection is subject to normal wear, amplifying the "edge case" effect over its lifetime - which all together means we have to actually spend a certain amount of time "looking" at the state of the switch, to let it settle and make sure we got it right.
We end up spending so much time letting physics do its job that in a trivial firmware, the MCU is actually spending a significant amount of time... just sleeping. Which means we were later able to cram all sorts of madness like individual RGB lightning or status displays, and never decreased the poll rate.
Where would these 40ms come from then? Well I wouldn't get near the problem without an oscilloscope, and unfortunately I don't have one.
> I'm just starting to get into custom keyboards.
Then I recommend studying the original ErgoDox firmware & build instructions! It's extremely straightforward compared to a beast like QMK, which actually uses a whole RTOS.
https://www.ergodox.io/; https://github.com/benblazak/ergodox-firmware
- How to condense 48 buttons to a binary output
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Hotkeys in ergodox?
Hi! Does anyone here have some experience playing age on an ergodox? I usually move the right part out of the way so that I can have more space for the mouse (it is actually great for things like FPS because the mouse hand is in a very natural position), but the default hotkeys force me to move my left hand across both sides, making it hard to actually hit the key without looking. I've been only using control groups 1-5 due to this, which is less than optimal.
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Broke my 4th MS Sculpt in 6 years, so I finally made the switch to mechanical.
The closest open source keyboard you'll get next to the Moonlander is probably the ErgoDox that it's heavily inspired from.
rae-dux
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Ortho get wider toward the top?
The word I think you're looking for is splay. I haven't seen it done any keywell boards but it's on a few different flat boards like the rae dux. https://github.com/andrewjrae/rae-dux
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Family Photo
rae-dux https://github.com/andrewjrae/rae-dux
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Hi, first time rabbit holer here. Would someone be willing to save me from myself and review what I have so far for obvious errors? Both in terms of the ergogen config/keyboard layout as well as kicad PCB stuff
The layout in the thumbnail is very close to one I just built (not my design), Rae-dux, if you want to save yourself a bunch of time.
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[AU] [H] Fuyu PCBs / rae-dux PCBs
2x rae-dux halves (see https://github.com/andrewjrae/rae-dux), more pics available here. $15 AUD for both.
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Yet another split 5x3 + 3 : the Owl keyboard
Allow me to indroduce the Owl, yet another 5x3 + 3 keyboard ! This is a modified version of the rae-dux, the layout being the same, except with MX spacing. As for the rae-dux, it is wireless only.
- What is the cheapest split ergo with a decent thumb cluster ?
- [US-IA] [H] 2x lily58 split keyboard with mag. tenting & raedux low profile wireless split keyboard [W] paypal
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What keyboards do you want to see next in my store!
So, purely out of my own needs, and since the Sweep doesn't quite cover that, I'd love a 3W6 or a Roost. Or even a Rae-dux.
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rae-dux: a 36-key wireless (diodeless!) split keyboard
Full credit to Andrew Rae for designing this board - https://github.com/andrewjrae/rae-dux
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New daily driver, 34 key Ferris sweep
There is samoklava and rae-dux, and you can look through the layouts listed in this comparison tool for more. As for ones with a trackball, the Charybdis and its nano variant come to mind.
What are some alternatives?
crkbd - Corne keyboard, a split keyboard with 3x6 column staggered keys and 3 thumb keys.
roost - roost low profile ergonomic ortholinear hot-swappable kailh-choc keyboard
SofleKeyboard - A split keyboard based on Lily58, Crkbd and Helix keyboards
chocofi - Split 36-key keyboard
kanata - Improve keyboard comfort and usability with advanced customization
claw44
dactyl-cc - A Dactyl like 3d printed keyboard written in C++
cephalopoda - Low profile split ergonomic mechanical keyboards
Ergo-S-1
samoklava - Generated keyboard
qmk_firmware - My fork of qmk_firmware; with a custom layout for my Ergodox EZ
3W6 - a small compact 3x5+3 split ortho keyboard