Bookmate VS Django-link-archive

Create a list of bookmarks linking to websites you find interesting, and publish it for the world to see...The model is as recursive as it is simple. There is nothing preventing a list of bookmarks from linking to another list of bookmarks...The creation of a bookmark list is a surprisingly fun project.

I agree. I've often thought of people publishing a list of bookmarks in a way that everyone can see. I even created DownloadNet originally based on this idea. I wanted a way to publish one of my bookmark folders as a server for people.

But then, as so often happens, the simple idea evolved, and I got carried away by who knows what (technical challenges? I don't know) and ended up creating a personal archive and search engine with only a scant integration with bookmarks.

This article is a good reminder of what originally seemed to me a good idea. Perhaps I should add it there. Also, perhaps p2p could be an easy way to federate these things? Not everyone can just create their own server, nor do they want to host it on big providers always.

I've been tossing around the idea of p2p as a way to "solve" this, but it's still rather formless: new and vague. Over the last 3 days I created a p2p blog (and again, got carried away -- perhaps with technical challenges -- and added p2p chat). But I think there's something there.

Perhaps I should listen to that idea that keeps recurring for me. To that first version of it anyway.

Something simple, that unifies, publishing a bookmark folder (I have some chrome bookmark reading code^0), over p2p (I have janus^1), and possibly uses either the popularity of DownloadNet, or even some of the search/archiving stuff -- without getting carried away -- to assist in delivery or marketing.

I don't know. A clear synthesis right now escapes me, but that's OK. I think there's something there: bookmarks (maybe a special bookmark folder, something referential, like "/var/www/html"), into which bookmarks go and then become public; a lightweight p2p server (that perhaps in some limit future could be federates effortlessly for p2p discovery, but who knows how?). Ugh...still too complex perhaps.

Bookmark folder + p2p + transitive (my bookmark folder includes a link to another person's bookmark folder ~~ somehow).

So it's like that article recently on the homepage "We need webrings" or sth. I didn't think that was particularly a good idea, but now I see at least a partial appeal.

The "link" to another person's p2p bookmark "folder" will instead be a normal www hyperlink that links to the "signalling access point" where you can do the ritual to make the connection.

People may think the weirdness, unavailability (you have to be running the little service in your terminal or as a daemon), and difficulty makes it a non-starter. But I think these "backward" elements, could be a paradoxical strength.

I don't know. I think there's something there. I definitely want to keep pushing in this direction, anyhow.

0: https://github.com/00000o1/Bookmate

I am running my of YouTube front-end.

Link: https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

Demo: https://renegat0x0.ddns.net/apps/catalog

Allows me to add channels, download individual videos, bookmark videos, etc. Uses iframe to display the video.

I have no problems with viewing videos:

- I use ff with adblock

- videos are embedded using no-referrer-when-downgrade policy

I have literally no ads.

There are some drawbacks:

- YouTube may change their policies, change embedding strategies

- To have control over videos, you still have to manually download them

I wrote bookmark manager in Django.

https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

You can self host it.

You can add RSS sources and auto import new links regularly.

It may not be stare of the art, but gets the job done.

Demo below, but may not be working when you look at it. It runs on raspberry pi.

https://renegat0x0.ddns.net/apps/catalog/entry/11503/

I have myself dabbled a little bit in that subject. Some of my notes:

- some RSS feeds are protected by cloudflare. It is true however that it is not necessary for majority of blogs. If you would like to do more then selenium would be a way to solve "cloudflare" protected links

- sometimes even selenium headless is not enough and full blown browser in selenium is necessary to fool it's protection

- sometimes even that is not enough

- then I started to wonder, why some RSS feeds are so well protected by cloudflare, but who am I to judge?

- sometimes it is beneficial to cover user agent. I feel bad for setting my user agent to chrome, but again, why RSS feeds are so well protected?

- you cannot parse, read entire Internet, therefore you always need to think about compromises. For example I have narrowed area of my searches in one of my projects to domains only. Now I can find most of the common domains, and I sort them by their "importance"

- RSS links do change. There need to be automated means to disable some feeds automatically to prevent checking inactive domains

- I do not see any configurable timeout for reading a page, but I am not familiar with aiohttp. Some pages might waste your time

- I hate that some RSS feeds are not configured properly. Some sites do not provide a valid meta "link" with "application/rss+xml". Some RSS feeds have naive titles like "Home", or no title at all. Such a waste of opportunity

My RSS feed parser, link archiver, web crawler: https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive. Especially interesting could be file rsshistory/webtools.py. It is not advanced programming craft, but it got the job done.

Additionally, in other project I have collected around 2378 of personal sites. I collect domains in https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database/tree/ma... . These files are JSONs. All personal sites have tag "personal".

Most of the things are collected from:

https://nownownow.com/

https://searchmysite.net/

I wanted also to process domains from https://downloads.marginalia.nu/, but haven't got time to read structure of the files

"""

Disclaimer: I have a automated RSS reader enabled in my network: https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

On the other hand it is not 1995. Time has moved on. I wrote a Simple RSS feed, that also serves as search engine for bookmarks.

I am able to run it in attick on raspberry pi. We do not have to rely so heavily on google.

https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

It is true that it does not serve me as google, or kagi replacement. It is a very nice addition though.

With a little bit off determination I do not have to be so dependent on google.

Here is also a dump of known domains. Some are personal.

https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

...and my bookmarks

https://github.com/rumca-js/RSS-Link-Database

Some more years, and google can go to hell.

[4] https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

These are exported then to github repositories:

[5] https://github.com/rumca-js/RSS-Link-Database - bookmarks

[6] https://github.com/rumca-js/RSS-Link-Database-2023 - 2023 year news headlines

[7] https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database - all known to me domains, and RSS feeds

My own repositories:

- bookmarked entries https://github.com/rumca-js/RSS-Link-Database

- mostly domains https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

- all 'news' from 2023 https://github.com/rumca-js/RSS-Link-Database-2023

I am using my own Django program to capture and manage links https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive.

A list od blogs mentioned by hacker news, some were adres manually by me:

https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive/blob/main/an...

I have a project. I have posted it once herenon HN. I have not received any feedback then, it hasn't received much traction.

It is a link aggregation. Can be used as a RSS client, or YouTube front end for subscriptions.

It is intended for light, personal use, therefore it is not much scalable, but supports user management.

https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

Ha, I have also wrote something similar

https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive

I support not only youtube, but also any RSS source.

It functions as link aggregation software. I can also fetch meta for all videos in channel, and download videos, audios.

I am using standard Django auth module.

It still lacks polish, and it is under development. I am not a webdev, so I am still struggling with overall architecture