zpy VS taskipy

zpy – Zsh helpers for Python venvs, with uv or pip-tools

If your interactive shell is zsh, you could give my project zpy a try, particularly the function pipz that it provides, which is a lightweight pipx clone with great completions and good speed.

I can immediately see some things rye is doing differently, like keeping the venvs themselves free of pip and pip-tools. I wonder in your explorations if you've tried rtx for managing python installations, or my own zpy wrapper of pip-tools+venv (which can also replace pipx).

My patterns in this regard aren't exactly mainstream, as I use flit+pip-tools+zpy (the latter being my own Zsh interface for Python dependency and environment operations), but FWIW here's how I go about nested requirements.

For managing venvs and dependencies and apps, I use my own frontend to pip-tools + venv, zpy. And for running tasks which require an activated venv, I use nox.

If anyone's interested in a pipx clone with excellent tab completion, I would appreciate any feedback on pipz, a function of my zsh plugin for python environment and dependency management: zpy

https://github.com/andydecleyre/zpy

For concise and practical interactive usage of those tools, with excellent tab completion, I made the Zsh frontend zpy.

I also use my own Zsh wrapper functions with it, so for example: https://i.imgur.com/YX8bWy8.png

I'm a big fan of (and small contributor to) pip-tools, but both poetry and pipenv offer management of more stuff, which understandably appeals to folks seeking a simple comprehensible workflow.

Pip-tools is also a bit lower level, offering flexibility and compatibility which I relish, but also requiring more attention from the user to set things up as they wish.

If you or anyone else enjoying pip-tools is a Zsh user and interested in trying out my higher level functions to ease interactive use of pip-tools, venvs, and also isolated app installs (like pipx), I would love some feedback on zpy: https://github.com/AndydeCleyre/zpy

I'm very happy to answer any questions about it right here or as GitHub issues.

This is FAR from some big mainstream thing, but I use (and am happy to answer any questions about) my own Zsh frontend to venv+pip-tools+pip, zpy.

pdbpp: Improved pdb boltons: assorted python addtions twisted: event driven networking framework sorcery: Dark magic in python, things know where+how they are being called, helps reducing boilerplate sh: Better alternative for subprocess module, much more pythonic taskipy: npm run scipt_name like functionality snoop: pdb lite, record+replay function steps birdseye: graphical debugger remote-pdb: easy pdb from inside containers typer: wrapper around click for simpler code for CLIs arrow: Always TZ aware datetimes, plus more features more-itertools: more functions for iterators pydantic: data validation + dataclasses loguru: better logging notifiers: sending notifications from python

Taskipy

taskipy – complementary task runner for python

I always use Taskipy https://github.com/illBeRoy/taskipy to run tasks in my applications, works really well with Poetry so when I am running my dev Flask/FastAPI server and Celery or running my tests or format my code it's all there.

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In legacy (don't break anything) mode, there's still no reason to not switch. I export `requirements.txt` with poetry just for pip legacy reasons and it works great. If I just update some scripts, I could avoid it. It's running all the time in CI, it's exercised quite a bit.

What's wrong with just using pip and requirements.txt? There's no dev section. In addition, bumping deps is not the same. I have [a blog post](https://squarism.com/2021/09/10/sciencing-out-updates/) explaining semver updates to a python dev.

_my strong assertion:_ Python and Go missed it from the start. That's why it is so confusing. There's no other choice in Rust but Cargo. Rust devs are never confused on how to add a package, semver it. The answer is always Cargo. It's in the tutorial. It's in the book. It's in the culture.

I think I've heard that pip might support the pyproject spec, poetry already does. If you want scripts like npm, you can have that too with [taskipy](https://github.com/illBeRoy/taskipy). You don't have to.

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