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  • Signal-Server

    Server supporting the Signal Private Messenger applications on Android, Desktop, and iOS

  • Signal apps and server are all on GitHub and frequently updated, for what it's worth: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS.

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  • Signal-iOS

    A private messenger for iOS.

  • Signal apps and server are all on GitHub and frequently updated, for what it's worth: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS.

  • TextSecure

    A private messenger for Android.

  • > They distribute binaries on app platforms

    They seem to support reproducible builds https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/blob/main/reprod...

    > and don’t allow third party compiled to connect

    They don't want 3rd party clients to connect official servers, and do not support to them, but there is no outright ban.

  • clients

    Bitwarden client applications (web, browser extension, desktop, and cli)

  • > Yeah, but are there any official docs on that?

    If they document it, it becomes a standard and people start to rely on it. Even if the documentation itself is merely to explain the how and why of the database's encryption.

    > Last time I checked, they switched to SqlCipher as well, but with the password in an unencrypted file right next to the database file.

    > What's the threat model of such an odd design choice?

    The only thing that is more secure is to use Window's Credential Manager to store the key, which is what Bitwarden does [0].

    But those credentials can also be easily dumped [1].

    [0] https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/blob/89d7e96b25594e51a7...

    [1] https://gist.github.com/micjabbour/654e67d29cbd62be3587b9f1d...

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