Don't use your ORM entities for everything – embrace the SQL

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  • aiosql

    Simple SQL in Python

  • > resort to raw SQL

    I'm the opposite, I would rather write SQL than "resorting to" ORM queries, which is why my favourite libraries are aiosql[1] in Python, Hugsql[2] in Clojure and similar: write the queries as SQL in .sql files, which then get exposed as functions to your code.

    [1] https://nackjicholson.github.io/aiosql/

    [2] https://www.hugsql.org/

  • drizzle-orm

    Headless TypeScript ORM with a head. Runs on Node, Bun and Deno. Lives on the Edge and yes, it's a JavaScript ORM too 😅

  • Drizzle [1] comes pretty close the last time I checked.

    [1]: https://orm.drizzle.team

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  • squid

    🦑 Provides SQL tagged template strings and schema definition functions. (by andywer)

  • I guess I failed to set the context correctly given that you presented solutions for Clojure and Python, where it isn't as much of a problem since from the start the language fails to provide compiler guarantees you usually come to expect out of a SQL driver wrapper in typed languages (even though Clojure macros are probably powerful enough to allow this).

    As a comparison, DX-wise this is no safer and is indeed very similar to the usual idiom in Go for example, where you just concatenate (pre-interpolated) SQL strings. But when you actually want the compiler to prove the correctness of your queries even in a rudimentary way, these .sql file solutions usually (if not, everytime) fail to provide the necessary external checker that processes templates and uses an accurate model of your database and SQL to verify that all used combinations make sense.

    The closest thing to a proper take on this I've seen is https://github.com/andywer/squid with https://github.com/andywer/postguard which, although the SQL is inlined in the code, it uses the right approach for verifying correctness as far as I could tell in the little time I experimented with it.

  • postguard

    🐛 Statically validate Postgres SQL queries in JS / TS code and derive schemas.

  • I guess I failed to set the context correctly given that you presented solutions for Clojure and Python, where it isn't as much of a problem since from the start the language fails to provide compiler guarantees you usually come to expect out of a SQL driver wrapper in typed languages (even though Clojure macros are probably powerful enough to allow this).

    As a comparison, DX-wise this is no safer and is indeed very similar to the usual idiom in Go for example, where you just concatenate (pre-interpolated) SQL strings. But when you actually want the compiler to prove the correctness of your queries even in a rudimentary way, these .sql file solutions usually (if not, everytime) fail to provide the necessary external checker that processes templates and uses an accurate model of your database and SQL to verify that all used combinations make sense.

    The closest thing to a proper take on this I've seen is https://github.com/andywer/squid with https://github.com/andywer/postguard which, although the SQL is inlined in the code, it uses the right approach for verifying correctness as far as I could tell in the little time I experimented with it.

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