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  • It's a tricky balance to strike. Obviously, krono, you're right: ff we're being generous the app launch GA tracker they use, they probably consider it shares nothing of value or identifiable, but strictly speaking it's not true that no data shared.

    I think the audit you do is actually valuable. In my company's product, BrowserBox^0 (also a browser, funnily enough! focused on remote isolation, privacy & security, and including Tor support), we don't collect anything but we want to add some kind of telemetry regarding usage so we can even basically know how many daily users we have (outside of licensed channels where it's tracked in the contract).

    Even tho we don't collect anything, we don't advertise "Zero data collection" anywhere, because of how sensitive I think this topic is. I think we really need to be solid on it, if we're going to say that. And to cover us, in the privacy policy, we say "we may collect some data for operational purposes to ensure the continued running of the service" (paraphrasing), even tho we don't.

    One niggle is that we use Chrome in headless mode (can also use Edge / Chromium), and while we appreciate the auto updating quality that Chrome has for security patches, we're cautious that maybe Chrome still collects telemetry and sends it to Google even with headless and correct flags (see for instance: https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/blob/afb7d9eb5854e851...)

    I know it's not your job...but what's your advice on how to proceed specifically?

    0: https://github.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox

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  • It's a tricky balance to strike. Obviously, krono, you're right: ff we're being generous the app launch GA tracker they use, they probably consider it shares nothing of value or identifiable, but strictly speaking it's not true that no data shared.

    I think the audit you do is actually valuable. In my company's product, BrowserBox^0 (also a browser, funnily enough! focused on remote isolation, privacy & security, and including Tor support), we don't collect anything but we want to add some kind of telemetry regarding usage so we can even basically know how many daily users we have (outside of licensed channels where it's tracked in the contract).

    Even tho we don't collect anything, we don't advertise "Zero data collection" anywhere, because of how sensitive I think this topic is. I think we really need to be solid on it, if we're going to say that. And to cover us, in the privacy policy, we say "we may collect some data for operational purposes to ensure the continued running of the service" (paraphrasing), even tho we don't.

    One niggle is that we use Chrome in headless mode (can also use Edge / Chromium), and while we appreciate the auto updating quality that Chrome has for security patches, we're cautious that maybe Chrome still collects telemetry and sends it to Google even with headless and correct flags (see for instance: https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/blob/afb7d9eb5854e851...)

    I know it's not your job...but what's your advice on how to proceed specifically?

    0: https://github.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox

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