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It isn't banned in comments - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., etc.
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You can refer to the full list on the github page[0] (which I find to be pretty accurate). I personally use La Contre-Voie[1] for no particular reason.
nitter.net was historically a little less reliable for me due to rate limiting, which is why I initially switched. They worked around the rate limiting issue now, so that may no longer be the case.
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> how is an explicit ban any less discouraging?
It's about whose messages are sidelined, not who gets discouraged.
With shadow removals, good-faith users' content is elbowed out without their knowledge. Since they don't know about it, they don't adjust behavior and do not bring their comments elsewhere.
Over 50% of Reddit users have removed content they don't know about. Just look at what people say when they find out [1].
> and evidently it does work against spammers here on HN
It doesn't. It benefits people who know how to work the system. The more secret it is, the more special knowledge you need.
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