Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of money? (2021)

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  • Babel (Formerly 6to5)

    šŸ  Babel is a compiler for writing next generation JavaScript.

  • I do appreciate your transparency, though I disagree with the sentiment that Iā€™m arguing from a position of bad faith.

    Itā€™s a self-evident fact that the Babel team has not shown a moment of interest in lowering their role in the JavaScript ecosystem to anything short of kingmakers. Have a gander at their GitHub README and what do we see?[1]

    - ā€œBabel is a compiler for writing next generation JavaScript.ā€ Indefinitely.

    - Over a dozen sponsor logos. An embarrassment of riches.

    - A literal audio recording of a song in praise of the project.

    The Babel team has a well documented history of their priorities[2], emphasizing the need for a modular approach that has no exit strategy[3]. At best, we have a case of accidental entrenchment and long term dependence on the Babel brewing as early as 2017![4]

    Compare this infinite circus to the humble but popular Normalize.css, which has the express purpose to stop existing.[5]

    If the Babel team wants to raise some money, they can start by putting a plan together that would codify an exit strategy. Itā€™s certainly more noble than their current plan of barnacling on to every NPM packageā€¦

    - [1] https://github.com/babel/babel

    - [2] https://github.com/babel/notes

    - [3] https://github.com/babel/notes/blob/master/2016/2016-07/july...

    - [4] https://github.com/babel/notes/blob/master/2017/2017-04/apri...

    - [5] https://nicolasgallagher.com/about-normalize-css/

  • notes

    ā™¬ Notes from the @Babel Team (discuss in PRs) (by babel)

  • I do appreciate your transparency, though I disagree with the sentiment that Iā€™m arguing from a position of bad faith.

    Itā€™s a self-evident fact that the Babel team has not shown a moment of interest in lowering their role in the JavaScript ecosystem to anything short of kingmakers. Have a gander at their GitHub README and what do we see?[1]

    - ā€œBabel is a compiler for writing next generation JavaScript.ā€ Indefinitely.

    - Over a dozen sponsor logos. An embarrassment of riches.

    - A literal audio recording of a song in praise of the project.

    The Babel team has a well documented history of their priorities[2], emphasizing the need for a modular approach that has no exit strategy[3]. At best, we have a case of accidental entrenchment and long term dependence on the Babel brewing as early as 2017![4]

    Compare this infinite circus to the humble but popular Normalize.css, which has the express purpose to stop existing.[5]

    If the Babel team wants to raise some money, they can start by putting a plan together that would codify an exit strategy. Itā€™s certainly more noble than their current plan of barnacling on to every NPM packageā€¦

    - [1] https://github.com/babel/babel

    - [2] https://github.com/babel/notes

    - [3] https://github.com/babel/notes/blob/master/2016/2016-07/july...

    - [4] https://github.com/babel/notes/blob/master/2017/2017-04/apri...

    - [5] https://nicolasgallagher.com/about-normalize-css/

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