yode-nvim VS LunarVim

Perhaps https://github.com/hoschi/yode-nvim

The plugin is https://github.com/hoschi/yode-nvim . I've submitted an issue related to this. I just wanted a workaround for the meantime.

It gets brought up a lot in vim discussions. It's missing a few major things for me;

1. Tabs (like in vim). I've found only vim and emacs have tabs in a way that makes sense to me. Kakoune also has a cool model, where I can use my window manager (or tmux) to recreate tabs.

2. Code folding, I like to fold everything as soon as I open a file to get an "overview" and then slowly unfold as look into the details. Wasn't in Helix last time I checked.

3. Narrowing. Emacs has it built in, (neo)vim requires a plugin [0]. Similar to code folding, when I'm working on a large function, I want to pretend it's the entirety of my buffer.

[0] https://github.com/hoschi/yode-nvim

Hi, great work releasing this! Trying to explain vim concisely is always an interesting challenge and I had a great time reading your attempt in this book. I always find it really interesting on how people try to group certain vim functions in a way that makes sense to people that don't use vim.

Whenever I try to explain vim to other people, I always start super abstract, i.e 'vim grammar is all (count)? verb then object. Learn actions and then the movements to apply the action where you want'. I think you cover that idea pretty well in your 'Vim philosophy and features' section whilst not making it overly abstract and keeping it relatable.

Some things I noticed, you mention registers in the insert mode section before explaining what they are. It seemed odd to me that you used the word before explaining what it meant, but maybe it is unavoidable?

I also noticed you completely left out folds (z, :help fold). Personally, I aggressively fold code I'm not working on so I think they are super important :D. There was a plugin posted recently thats a cool alternative to folding though (similar to emacs narrow) [0] [1].

[0] https://github.com/hoschi/yode-nvim

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found it, check this issue: https://github.com/hoschi/yode-nvim/issues/5

LunarVim

I would suggest to start getting into vim by first trying out popular vim keybinding plugins available on your favorite code editor and get used to those first. Then, if you want to dive deeper into the power of Neovim, try out popular configs like LazyVim, LunarVim, NvChad... Taking Neovim from a mere text editor to a full-featured IDE with features like intellisense, debugging, testing, etc... on your own takes quite a lot of work and configuration.

I used Helix for a while due to its support for LSP out-of-the-box, which my Vim config at the time couldn't live up to. I switched back to NeoVim after finding LunarVim[1] which had everything I was trying to get setup in my own config.

[1] https://www.lunarvim.org/

I'll admit I didn't look into it, but Helix sounds like something like LunarVim (https://www.lunarvim.org/)

Personally I much prefer that the editor NOT ship with something like that by default, especially when it's so easy to set up. I have several different vim config I use, including a pretty bare-bones one for headless systems, and I much prefer the ability to customize something very specifically.

Build tools that can compose together, rather than a single do-it-all tool. That is the power of the low level editors vs IDE's.

I can't comment on any implementation details, but at least with LunarVim (which I use for daily coding), a slowdown when interacting with LSP is very noticeable. Some others have attested to this on a GitHub issue.

I'm not doubting your experiences with the lack of a slowdown, but there is truth that others do experience it. That might be more of a problem with LunarVim itself rather than Vim, but how likely am I (as someone who would like to avoid what he calls "config hell") or other newcomers to avoid whatever pitfalls there are, if a distribution designed for ease of use by people who know better fall into them?

https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim/discussions/3359

Anyways, although i have not used them, LazyVim and LunarVim comes highly recommended. You can try these and see what suits you .