vaultenv VS sops

Having secrets in an external system (like Hashicorp Vault) and then using [vaultenv](https://github.com/channable/vaultenv) to inject these during `helm install/upgrade`. So you end up with something like `vaultenv ... -- helm install --set config.myvar=${VAULTENV_INJECTED_ENV_VALUE}` (or similar). Point is I use vaultenv to run helm with secrets injected as env vars only during the helm run, and use helm's `--set` flag to set individual secrets. This can get tedious if you have many secrets as you have to specify each of them individually with --set. Usually I wrap this in a Makefile or a shell script for easier invoking.

> Also, regarding DevOps, the tooling around Nix makes it a little brittle for anything event based--rapidly changing configurations on the fly due to network conditions (Consul, Ansible, etc). This is where configuration management is heading, and due to the static nature of Nix, delegating dynamic changes is hard/anti pattern.

Channable uses Consul, Vault, etc. for dynamic configuration and it works with Nix just fine.

You don't have to use static configuration files with Nix. Either fetch dynamic stuff using the Consul, Vault, etc. APIs at runtime or use a tool like vaultenv [1] or similar if you don't want this logic in your application code.

Put those tools in your systemd service before launching your app, and you're good to go.

(NB: I was DevOps teamlead at Channable while a part of this work was being done. Sad that I won't be able to see the final picture.)

[1]: https://github.com/channable/vaultenv

My script just sets up default .sops.yaml for https://github.com/getsops/sops

You can further edit .sops.yaml(eg have multiple of them) and decide how you split secrets in your directory tree to further customize who can decrypt the secrets.

It works pretty well for prod/dev splits, etc

Mozilla SOPS (Secrets OPerationS) is an open-source command-line tool for managing and storing secrets. It uses secure encryption methods to encrypt secrets at rest and decrypt them at runtime. SOPS supports a variety of key management systems, including AWS KMS, GCP KMS, Azure Key Vault, and PGP. It's particularly useful in a DevOps context where sensitive data like API keys, passwords, or certificates need to be securely managed and seamlessly integrated into application workflows.

Encrypted secrets thanks to SOPS and Age

We do the exact same thing to keep track of some credentials we use sops[1] and AWS KMS to separate credentials by sensitivity, then use the git differ to view the diffs between the encrypted secrets

Definitely not best practice security-wise, but it works well

[1] https://github.com/getsops/sops

For anyone new to SOPS like I was - https://github.com/getsops/sops

I've found this is largely solved by strictly separating plain config and secrets, and then having secrets pull from GCP secret manager / vault / whatever.

You can then commit all the config (including the secret identifiers) and it all just works so long as you're authenticated with your secret storage system.

We do this for the live configuration as well in line with Gitops and find it to work well.

If you don't want to use a cloud secret manager you can also use something like https://github.com/getsops/sops to commit the encrypted secrets safely

Basically, the simpler the better --just encrypt your secrets and check them in to version control.

We use SOPS[0] for this, and have found it to be pretty nice.

[0]: https://github.com/getsops/sops

The answer is that secrets shouldn't be stored in the git repo at all, but somewhere safe like a password manager or Mozilla's SOPS which people seem to love.

Unfortunately, the SOPS project is in some sort of a limbo state and there has been quite a long period with limited maintenance and unclear position from Mozilla. Despite the project being accepted into the CNCF, it's still unclear what will happen with it going forward.