TYPO3 VS Grav

Compare TYPO3 vs Grav and see what are their differences.

TYPO3

The TYPO3 Core - Enterprise Content Management System. Synchronized mirror of https://review.typo3.org/q/project:Packages/TYPO3.CMS (by TYPO3)

Grav

Modern, Crazy Fast, Ridiculously Easy and Amazingly Powerful Flat-File CMS powered by PHP, Markdown, Twig, and Symfony (by getgrav)
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TYPO3 Grav
7 84
1,011 14,291
1.7% 0.4%
9.9 8.5
1 day ago 3 days ago
PHP PHP
GNU General Public License v3.0 only MIT License
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TYPO3

Posts with mentions or reviews of TYPO3. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-05-23.
  • Classic Themes with Block Patterns in WordPress
    8 projects | dev.to | 23 May 2023
    I doubt that WordPress is in danger. Its multiverse / flexibility and ease of use compared to real content management systems like Typo3, NEOS or Drupal, and the ability to just install it and control your content on your own webserver, try that with Wix, WebFlow, SquareSpace, Shopify and all those "serverless" software as a service servers. Hopefully, the core team will either get their block editor right some day (WordPress 7.0?) or make it completely optional. That would still be better than a fork, but I'd wished they had improved security, performance and internationalization instead of releasing the new editing features in an unstable beta state.
  • best php-based cms/tech choice
    16 projects | /r/PHP | 28 Dec 2022
    In a more business feature based CMS but still more like traditional CMS are Typo3 and Drupal, both have there usecase and sure a big community around them with a lot of modules and co. And both allow customization and building, installable plugins and themes. But modern version allow give more control from the system to the dev. We also should not forget of Typo3 called Neos CMS, which has its own way and Framework around it.
  • Exploring the 17 Content Management Systems of Symfony
    6 projects | dev.to | 14 Jan 2022
    The official site of TYPO3 https://typo3.org/.
  • File Location of main index.html/index.php
    1 project | /r/TYPO3 | 23 Jun 2021
    It depends on how you installed your site. Is it composer installation or did you download the files from the typo3.org? If composer based - did you use helhum's secure installation?
  • Our tech stack in 2021
    3 projects | dev.to | 1 Apr 2021
    Content management products using Statamic and TYPO3
  • 5 expert tips to run TYPO3 CMS more sustainably
    1 project | dev.to | 24 Feb 2021
    At this point I'll try to show 5 important new tips I've learned myself while working on client projects with the TYPO3 CMS.
  • Yeah, TYPO3 11.1 has been released today. I've tried it!
    1 project | dev.to | 23 Feb 2021
    Official TYPO3 Repository

Grav

Posts with mentions or reviews of Grav. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-03.
  • Ask HN: What products other than Obsidian share the file over app philosophy?
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Apr 2024
    There are flat-file CMSes (content management systems) like Grav: https://getgrav.org/

    I guess, in some vague/broad sense, config-as-code systems also implement something similar? Maybe even OpenAPI schemas could count to some degree...?

    In the old days, the "semantic web" movement was an attempt to make more webpages both human- and machine-readable indefinitely by tagging them with proper schema: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Description_Framework. Even Google was on board for a while, but I guess it never saw much uptake. As far as I can tell it's basically dead now, both because of non-semantic HTML (everything as a React div), general laziness, and LLMs being able to parse things loosely.

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    Side thoughts...

    Philosophically, I don't know that capturing raw data alone as files is really sufficient to capture the nuances of any particular experience, or the overall zeitgeist of an era. You can archive Geocities pages, but that doesn't really capture the novelty and indie-ness of that era. Similarly, you can save TikTok videos, but absent the cultural environment that created them (and a faithful recreation of the recommendation algorithm), they wouldn't really show future archaeologists how teenagers today lived.

    I worked for a natural history museum for a while, and while we were there, one of the interesting questions (well, to me anyway) was whether our web content was in and of itself worth preserving as a cultural artifact -- both so that future generations can see what exhibits were interesting/apropos for the cultures of our times, but also so they could see how our generation found out about those exhibitions to begin with (who knows what the Web will morph into 50 years later). It wasn't enough to simply save the HTML of our web pages, both because they tie into various other APIs and databases (like zoological collections) and because some were interactive experiences, like games designed to be played with a mouse (before phones were popular), or phone chatbots with some of our specimens. To really capture the experience authentically would've required emulating not just our tech stacks and devices, among other things.

    Like for the earlier Geocities example, sure you could just save the old HTML and render it with a modern browser, but that's not the same as something like https://oldweb.today/?browser=ns3-mac#http://geocities.com/ , which emulates the whole OS and browser too. And that still isn't the same as having to sit in front of a tiny CRT and wait minutes for everything to download over a 14.4k modem, only to be interrupted when mom had to make a call.

    I guess that's a longwinded of critiquing "file over app": It only makes sense for things that are originally files/documents to begin with. Much of our lives now are not flat docs but "experiences" that take much more thought and effort to archive. If the goal is truly to preserve that posterity, it's not enough to just archive their raw data, but to develop ways to record and later emulate entire experiences, both technological and cultural. It ain't easy!

  • Soupault: A static website management tool
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Mar 2024
  • Grav is a modern open-source flat-file CMS
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Jul 2023
  • Grav – A Modern Flat-File CMS Using PHP and Markdown
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Jul 2023
  • It Took Me a Decade to Find the Perfect Personal Website Stack – Ghost+Fathom
    14 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Jul 2023
    I took a more traditional approach, focusing on something that's "good enough", which in my case was a cheap VPS and an install of Grav: https://getgrav.org/

    Some optional customization for page templates/fonts/CSS, some CI so I can build and deploy it inside of a Docker container, Matomo for analytics that respect privacy (which I already use elsewhere) and some additional web server configuration to hide anything interesting behind an additional login and I'm good. Maybe backups and uptime monitoring if I'm feeling brave, which is what most sites should also have (so copy + paste there).

    All of that for under 100 euros per year (could also pay half of that if I didn't host anything else on the server), the blog has actually survived getting on the front page of HN once or twice and requires relatively little maintenance, at least a bit less than a proper install of WordPress, due to its larger surface area.

    The best thing is that it's simple enough for me to understand how it works, to be able to move it anywhere as needed and use more or less plain Markdown for writing the blog posts. Here's a quick example of a recent post: https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/ever-wanted-to-read-thousan...

    Now all that's left is to find motivation to write more, but at least 90% of my time doesn't go into tinkering with custom fancy solutions, no matter how much I'd love that. Then again, nothing wrong with the alternatives either: 400 euros might be perfectly worth it for some, whereas working with static site generators or even custom CMSes would be a fun experience for others!

  • Grav: Modern, open-source, flat-file CMS
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Jul 2023
  • Is it possible to convert a WordPress site into a static site that can still be easily edited?
    1 project | /r/Wordpress | 6 Jul 2023
    I'd check out Grav. https://getgrav.org/
  • Gravity - A new, open source DNS/DHCP server with Adblocking and inbuilt config replication
    7 projects | /r/selfhosted | 29 Jun 2023
    Also, there is a CMS called Grav. Both Gravity and Grav use a very similar (but not identical) font for their logo.
  • Mercredi Tech - 2023-06-28
    1 project | /r/france | 28 Jun 2023
  • website with unlimited pages ??
    1 project | /r/webdev | 27 May 2023
    I would use a flat file cms like https://getgrav.org

What are some alternatives?

When comparing TYPO3 and Grav you can also consider the following projects:

django-cms - The easy-to-use and developer-friendly enterprise CMS powered by Django

Pico - Pico is a stupidly simple, blazing fast, flat file CMS.

Umbraco - The simple, flexible and friendly ASP.NET CMS used by more than 730.000 websites

october - Self-hosted CMS platform based on the Laravel PHP Framework.

Pimcore - Core Framework for the Open Source Data & Experience Management Platform (PIM, MDM, CDP, DAM, DXP/CMS & Digital Commerce)

Bolt - Bolt is a simple CMS written in PHP. It is based on Silex and Symfony components, uses Twig and either SQLite, MySQL or PostgreSQL.

Joomla! - Home of the Joomla! Content Management System

Bludit - Simple, Fast, Secure, Flat-File CMS

ProcessWire - ProcessWire 3.x is a friendly and powerful open source CMS with a strong API.

Strapi - πŸš€ Strapi is the leading open-source headless CMS. It’s 100% JavaScript/TypeScript, fully customizable and developer-first.

Neos - [READ-ONLY] An open source Content Application Platform based on Flow. A set of core Content Management features is resting within a larger context that allows you to build a perfectly customized experience for your users

GetSimple CMS - GetSimple CMS