sciter-js-sdk
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sciter-js-sdk
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AvaloniaUI: Create Multi-Platform Apps with .NET
- https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/tree/main/b... - Skia backend.
You can load in usciter this document:
https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/blob/main/s...
It shows pretty large colorized texts so you can estimate how Direct2D and Skia handle GPU accelerated text rendering. For these two binaries the difference is only in graphics used - Direct2D and Skia.
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Show HN: DataSheetGrid, an Airtable-like React component
Agree about virtualization in principle. Not that nightmarish though.
My Sciter supports built-in virtualization out of the box. But I shall admit that this is second approach to the problem.
Currently Sciter's behavior:virtual-list supports as fixed-height items (that's easy) as variable-height items like messages [1] in chats.
API is relatively simple [2]: single event "contentrequired" that virtual-list sends to JS. In response JS shall either append or prepend requested number of DOM elements to the container (a.k.a. sliding window scroller). Example, grid showing 20000 records: https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/blob/main/s...
[1] https://sciter.com/behaviorvirtual-list-for-sciter-and-scite...
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I've built a multi-session browser
Thank you for your explanation. As for Electron alternatives, Sciter is much more lightweight, supports Vue and includes a native webview. Anyway, good luck with your project!
- JavaScript import maps are now supported cross-browser
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XUL Layout has been removed from Firefox
> we have a number of other libs to integrate, some of which add their own rendering (which requires access to e.g. a Vulkan context, not merely HTML/CSS or other high-level UI elements)…
I have a customer that is doing something close: it is a 3D CAD alike app where they have Vulkan rendering 3D scene with Sciter UI on top of that - rendering chrome UI around that 3D and on the same Vulkan surface.
Sciter API supports rendering in windowless mode (https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/tree/main/d...) where app supplies OpenGL, Vulkan or DirectX context to render on.
> Sorry, but I'll have to pass.
Understood. Sometimes people need not just to get job done but also "OS" label on it.
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Flutter Desktop Isn't There Yet
Attempt to combine all these definition in single language is doomed to fail. If in doubts then look at WPF.
3. Notes on language-behind-UI...
If to consider #2 then such simple thing as JavaScript language and VM are quite adequate to the task. Language-behind-UI do not need to be that performant, but it must be flexible. I may express un-popular opinion but language-behind-UI should be typeless.
Simply put: don't do ray tracing in language-behind-UI. But! Such a language shall have simple mechanism of adding high performant functions. There are good languages that are specifically designed for performance: C, C++, D, Rust, Zig, WebAssembly, etc. You just need convenient mechanism to expose those functions to runtime of language-behind-UI. Like here: https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/blob/main/d...
You need JITs, compilation, fat VMs and runtimes, strong types only if your language is the only mean to define algorithms in whole application. But expect that your code will always be sub-optimal - neither enough performant nor super flexible.
4. Conclusion
Flutter should be something Sciter-alike :) - use [X]HTML/JSX, CSS and some already well known language-behind-UI. JavaScript is the natural choice. If needed you should be able to use native UI components - like in Sciter you can use existing HWND based and windowless native components inside your UI. It may not follow Web UI model on 100% (that's impossible) but to be conceptually close so developers can reuse their skills. Web UI model is conceptually close to Mobile one - all application UI is constrained inside single window.
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What is the fastest, lightest weight GUI framework?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it but I've been using SciterJS (website) for my most recent project. I wouldn't ever claim it's the best UI framework out there, but it's lightweight and I've never felt so productive - I've rapidly developed my UI and integrated it with my native C++ far faster than I thought possible. I will note that it is far, far cheaper and has so many more features than Ultralight does.
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The miracle of Smalltalk’s become: (2009)
Only when code tries to access props/methods of the loaded object it gets fetched from disk, its __proto__ is set to particular class, etc.
More on this architecture: https://gitlab.com/sciter-engine/sciter-js-sdk/-/blob/main/d...
Patched QuickJS with storage support is here: https://gitlab.com/c-smile/quickjspp - it uses DyBase of Konstantin Knizhnik as a storage.
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Localizing a Qt App; Or Anything Else For That Matter
More on i18n support in Sciter.
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Sciter.Android, preview available
Sciter got native (built-in) Signal implementation made after PReact's Signals;
sciter-js-sdk
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GameScripter.JS — write games in JS, compile to tiny executable
How tiny is the output? What is the API? (I couldn't find any documentation. I thought maybe it's in the Help menu in the app itself but all I found was this https://i.imgur.com/6puOMIe.png - On that note, what level of JS is supported? As far as I can tell it uses this https://github.com/c-smile/sciter-js-sdk which is based on Fabrice Bellard's QuickJS ) Is there sound?
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What technologies to use for a desktop app
JavaScript & Electron Sciter!
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Ultralight VS sciter-js-sdk - a user suggested alternative
2 projects | 4 Apr 2022
- Ask HN: Why aren't there any real alternatives to Electron?
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Zig Build System Internals
Having normal procedural language for build automation is of course useful. That's for those 10% of cases when "standard" build DSL (make,CMake,etc.) simply do not have facilities.
But the rest of 90% tasks should have compact (easily readable) definitions.
I personally found that Premake5 has quite good balance for these tasks.
Premake files are plain .lua files and due to Lua syntax they are easily readable. And if needed you can call from them procedures defined in again Lua.
So typical project (multiplatform) definition looks pretty readable, for example one project from Sciter SDK:
https://github.com/c-smile/sciter-js-sdk/blob/main/premake5....
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Alternatives for realtime offline-first JavaScript applications
More details.
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App Localization in Flutter
That's why in Sciter I've extended JSX with translation meta instruction @:
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Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
Note Tauri is full fledged Client/Server with WebView (client) is running in separate process with RPC between UI process and Rust code (Server).
For the comparison:
Standalone Sciter (scapp.exe, https://github.com/c-smile/sciter-js-sdk/tree/main/bin) takes ~8 MB of RAM (with minimal Cairo and GDI backends).
That's 20 times less than even Tauri.
WebView based solutions are not suitable for applets - small portable desktop applications.
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Dioxus v0.1 - a new Rust GUI toolkit for Web, Desktop, Mobile, SSR, TUI that emphasizes developer experience [WebView-based rendering]
scapp.exe ( Standalone sciter engine ) takes 45 Mb showing its default "about" document.
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Sciter, the 5 MB Electron alternative, has switched to JavaScript
It does support , with limited support but still.
See: https://github.com/c-smile/sciter-js-sdk/tree/main/samples/c...
Sciter also supports immediate mode painting on any element (like in DearIMGUI):
element.paintBackground = function(gfx) {
What are some alternatives?
Ultralight - Lightweight, high-performance HTML renderer for game and app developers.
tauri - Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.
capy - 💻Build one codebase and get native UI on Windows, Linux and Web
chromium - The official GitHub mirror of the Chromium source
game-scripter-js - Write games in JavaScript, compile to tiny executable.
vue-native-core - Vue Native is a framework to build cross platform native mobile apps using JavaScript
compression-dictionary-transport
react-native-web - Cross-platform React UI packages
Flutter - Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond
svelte-nodegui - Build performant, native and cross-platform desktop applications with native Svelte + powerful CSS-like styling.🚀
quickjspp
sciter - Sciter: the Embeddable HTML/CSS/JS engine for modern UI development