generator VS redux-saga

I find straight forward, dedicated combinators much more readable and practical to use ie. for iterables (context where it makes a lot of sense) [0] example [1], runtime assertions (through refutations, which are much faster than combinators over assertions) [2], parser combinators for smallish grammars [3] etc.

In many cases vanilla/imperative js is more readable and terse, no need to bring functional fanaticism everywhere, just in places where it gives true benefits and in form that can be understood by peers.

Functional code can be beautiful and can also be unreadable/undebugable. Same with imperative code. It's great in js/ts you can pick approach where the problem is expressed more naturally and mix it at will.

[0] https://github.com/preludejs/generator

[1] https://observablehq.com/@mirek/project-euler

[2] https://github.com/preludejs/refute

[3] https://github.com/preludejs/parser

You can type it, take a look at pipe and pipe1 in [0].

[0] https://github.com/preludejs/generator/tree/master/src

Loops are great if your programming languages supports iterables/iterators/generators (also async generators) like in js/ts for example.

Especially generator-to-generator combinators ie. [0] give you terse, transducer expressiveness over computation on finite/infinite streams, arrays, etc. (all iterables). It's easy to compose them, jump into for loops if needed for arbitrary yielding (ie. yielding multiple items sometimes, skipping some, halting etc). `continue`, `break`, nesting, yield, yield from, normal code in for loops is very intuitive and terse creating pleasant, understandable code.

[0] https://github.com/preludejs/generator

For the backend, we chose Python, Django Rest Framework. On the frontend, React, Redux, Saga, Sass. Let’s start with the backend, which was managed by Yegor. He writes about the server part of the project himself.

The whole article properly the best explanation of generators I have come across. This quote stuck out:

> Generators are a special type of function that can return multiple pieces of data during its execution. Traditional functions can return multiple data by using structures like Arrays and Objects, but Generators return data whenever the caller asks for it, and they pause execution until they are asked to continue to generate and return more data.

Applications of generators? I have only used Redux-Saga[1]. Can't even think of other libraries that use them, but would be interested in learning.

[1]: https://redux-saga.js.org/

redux-saga. The most popular effects library in js

Redux can be extended with a lot of other packages. For example with a side effect manager, you can separate side effects from your business logic, help with error handling and in the same process make testing of side effects a lot easier.

Consumer vs. Producer: Check out Redux Saga

Your app will likely have to deal with async calls like making remote API requests. redux-thunk and redux-saga were created to solve those problems. They may take some time to understand as they require understanding of functional programming and generators. Our advice is to deal with it only when you need it.

Hey thanks for the thoughtful response.

I agree with everything you mentioned here. I'd love to continue to chat with you about how to make testing sagas better.

If you'd like, it would be great if we could move this convo to https://github.com/redux-saga/redux-saga/discussions/2337

If there are dependent API calls, you can probably look at redux-saga. It’s one of the best libraries out there to manage the data.

redux-saga makes use of them in really nice way. https://redux-saga.js.org/ That’s where I’ve used them the most.