openfirmware VS forth

Compare openfirmware vs forth and see what are their differences.

openfirmware

OpenFirmware as used on OLPC (and elsewhere) (by openbios)

forth

Porting Richard Jones' FORTH to ARM (by phf)
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openfirmware

Posts with mentions or reviews of openfirmware. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-11-20.
  • Thinking Forth
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Nov 2022
    OpenFirmware has some code for paging! ;)

    purpose: Set up page tables and turn on paging

    https://github.com/openbios/openfirmware/blob/master/cpu/x86...

  • Hypertext '87 (1987) [pdf]
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 31 Dec 2021
    NeWS didn't use FORTH. But HyperTIES used both FORTH and NeWS because there were a lot of things that FORTH could do that NeWS couldn't, like link and call C code. The FORTH I used was Mitch Bradley's "Sun Forth", which evolved into OpenFirmware, and which was once defined by an IEEE standard, "IEEE 1275-1994", but it was withdrawn because the standard was not reaffirmed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware

    >Open Firmware is described by IEEE standard IEEE 1275-1994, which was not reaffirmed by the Open Firmware Working Group (OFWG) since 1998 and has therefore been officially withdrawn by IEEE.

    It's still alive and maintained and used for many things. Here's the source code, called OpenBIOS:

    https://github.com/openbios

    https://github.com/openbios/openfirmware

    https://openfirmware.info

    https://openfirmware.info/Welcome_to_OpenBIOS

  • What to Learn
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Oct 2021
  • Moving Forth (1993)
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Apr 2021
    Some Forth systems even have a "metacompiler" that lets one FORTH system compile another FORTH system for the same or different CPU, word size, byte order, threading model, etc, from the same source code!

    OpenFirmware (the FORTH burnt into boot roms of SPARC, PowerPC, OLPC, and other systems) is a great example:

    openfirmware/forth/kernel/metacompile.fth

    https://github.com/openbios/openfirmware/blob/d5cc657ce81c0f...

  • PostScript Language Reference [pdf]
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Apr 2021

forth

Posts with mentions or reviews of forth. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-03-30.
  • Developers spend most of their time figuring the system out
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Mar 2022
    >You don't write README.md, ARCHITECTURE.md, JavaDocs, etc, at all?

    Maybe? Not sure - haven't worked on enough big projects to declare answer

    >A new developer is supposed to go through all the codebases and figure out for himself?

    Yes to this bit - code should have very clear structure to it with appropriate comments attached, whether that's literate style as JonesForth<https://github.com/phf/forth/blob/master/x86/jonesforth.S> shows, small section header comment or whatever.

    It should be very clear what section exploring does - tiny example but cat <http://9p.io/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/cat.c> from plan 9 very simple segmented code - deals with file opening in main loop and cat function just reads and prints text

  • Useful minimal languages
    2 projects | /r/ProgrammingLanguages | 11 Jun 2021
    JONESFORTH is good read if want source to explore
  • PostScript Language Reference [pdf]
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Apr 2021
    You're very welcome.

    For later exploration, JonesForth <https://github.com/phf/forth/tree/master/x86> is excellent exploration of Forth's internals.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing openfirmware and forth you can also consider the following projects:

sbcl - Mirror of Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL)'s official repository

qpdf - QPDF: A content-preserving PDF document transformer

maths132-notes - Notes I wrote for Lee White's Maths 132 Differential Equations course, University of Melbourne, 1995-96