objc-lisp-bridge VS cursorless

Awesome! I've recently been going down the rabbit hole of working with Cocoa in SBCL. I've seen your work as well as https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/objc-lisp-bridge.

Interestingly, all the AppleScript functionality is built on an objective-c api called ScriptingBridge and it’s relatively easy to use a real programming language for the same sorts of things. JavaScript is natively supported by Script Editor, but there’s bindings for Ruby and Python too. I’ve wrapped it up in Common Lisp for my own use: https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/objc-lisp-bridge/blob/mast...

This tool doesn’t always work because plists can contain arbitrary Objective-C objects. However, there’s a relatively nice objective-c API that can be used to decode them losslessly that I used to extract data from Safari’s reading list l:

https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/objc-lisp-bridge/blob/mast...

What are your opinions on https://www.cursorless.org/ ?

Are you targeting developers?

My understanding was people who are serious about developing via voice use it pretty exclusively.

Like, yeah you need to learn commands, but "are often not worth it" feels like brushing a pretty massive offering under the rug.

Is learning vi / emacs commands not worth it (or shortcuts in another IDE?)

Is there a middle ground?

actually I just saw that someone is working on a keyboard mode for Cursorless! https://github.com/cursorless-dev/cursorless/issues?q=is%3Ai...

See for example: - https://youtu.be/xtOkYdwUves?si=X01vGNVhNRjj7kXh - https://www.cursorless.org/ - https://talonvoice.com/

I would highly recommend checking out https://www.cursorless.org/, an editor for voice built on Talon (what’s being used here by Josh) and a VSCode extension. If for nothing else than to watch the dev live code with it.

Yep. So I've been working for about fifteen years, had it from the start, but it just keep on getting worse. So now have migrated to a no keyboard solution, and am working on a no mouse solution.

My setup, software:

- talon (https://talonvoice.com/), basing my configuration on the standard repo (https://github.com/knausj85/knausj_talon/), with some minor modifications. This is how I navigate my whole computer, and runs the voice recognition and eye tracking. This is how I'm typing this right now. There are also a bunch of other little system changes that you need to make (eg, on macOS, disable double space to type a period), which is documented by the community with varying levels of success.

- cursorless (https://www.cursorless.org/), and then vscode. Before this I used Sublime Text for years and years, but cursorless is too good for coding. I know there are some projects on going to port it to different editors, but I haven't massively looked into it.

- vimium extension for web browsing (works in both chrome and firefox). This makes things like clicking links easier with your voice, without having too use an eye tracker all the time.

And then hardware:

- DPA 4488 microphone -> DAD6001 microdot-XLR converter -> Shure X2U USB XLR interface. ~£800. It's a very expensive microphone, but it's what the developer of talon uses (same brand anyway), and since I'm using this for work I want to remove every obstacle to having my voice recognised correctly and quickly

- Tobii Eye Tracker 5. ~£250. This is basically the only game in town. It works well enough but needs a lot of light. It also needs to be physically mounted to a monitor. In theory this means I don't need to use a mouse, but because I have a 34" ultrawide it doesn't work well on the edges, so I have a specific window size and location configured (say "layout mouse") which I could move apps into if I need to.

- At some point soon I want to replace the X2U with something higher quality and more permanent on my desk. Soon!

If you're programming, and open to doing it by voice, definitely check out Cursorless: https://www.cursorless.org/

It's worth mentioning Talon[0] here, which is a system for offline voice control as well, with great python-based scripting.

Using your computer or programming with it works like a charm, with some interesting and impressive projects like Cursorless[1] coming out as well, based on it.

[0]: https://talonvoice.com/

[1]: https://github.com/cursorless-dev/cursorless

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