MapDB VS Permazen

Compare MapDB vs Permazen and see what are their differences.

MapDB

MapDB provides concurrent Maps, Sets and Queues backed by disk storage or off-heap-memory. It is a fast and easy to use embedded Java database engine. (by jankotek)
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MapDB

Posts with mentions or reviews of MapDB. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-10-27.
  • GC, hands off my data!
    6 projects | dev.to | 27 Oct 2023
    I decided to start with an overview of what open-source options are currently available. When it comes to the implementation of the on-heap cache mechanism, the options are numerous – there is well known: guava, ehcache, caffeine and many other solutions. However, when I began researching cache mechanisms offering the possibility of storing data outside GC control, I found out that there are very few solutions left. Out of the popular ones, only Terracotta is supported. It seems that this is a very niche solution and we do not have many options to choose from. In terms of less-known projects, I came across Chronicle-Map, MapDB and OHC. I chose the last one because it was created as part of the Cassandra project, which I had some experience with and was curious about how this component worked:
  • Permazen: Language-natural persistence to KV stores
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Sep 2023
    So, it's an object database, like Zope's ZODB on Python?

    I like the idea, but I'd like to learn about use cases for it.

    Otherwise, in Java, MapDB is about as far as I'd be willing to go: https://github.com/jankotek/mapdb/

  • what is the best persistent collection library?
    5 projects | /r/java | 2 Sep 2022
    Anyway, without further ado, I found MapDB (https://github.com/jankotek/mapdb) which does exactly that. Of course, they also provide their own Java collection implementations as well, so I suspect using it with Vavr would be a poor idea, but it is very cool in its own right anyway. Of course, there is also Apache Derby and HSQLDB, and those great options with a long history as well. I haven't played with these in a while though, so I might give them a try again soon for some personal stuff.
  • Ask HN: What are the best key-value self-hosted storage engines?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 31 Mar 2022
    In Java I like

    https://mapdb.org/

    It is more feature rich than you want but in Python I'd probably just use sqlite3 since it is in the standard library.

  • Solution for hash-map with >100M values
    7 projects | /r/java | 21 Dec 2020
    I have had good results with mapdb

Permazen

Posts with mentions or reviews of Permazen. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-01.
  • ORMs are nice but they are the wrong abstraction
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Feb 2024
    The most interesting/fresh approach I've seen to this problem is Permazen.

    https://github.com/permazen/permazen/

    It starts by asking what the most natural way is to integrate persistence with a programming language (Java in this case, but the concepts are generic), and then goes ahead and implements the features of an RDBMS as an in-process library that can be given different storage backends as long as they implement a sorted K/V store. So it can sit on top of a simple in-process file based K/V store, RocksDB, FoundationDB, or any SQL database like PostgreSQL, SQLite, Spanner, etc (it just uses the RDBMS to store sorted key/value pairs in that case).

    Essentially it's a way to map object graphs to key/value pairs but with the usual features you'd want like indexing, validation, transactions, and so on. The design is really nice and can scale from tiny tasks you'd normally use JSON or object serialization for, all the way up to large distributed clusters.

    Because the native object model is mapped directly to storage there's no object/relational mismatch.

  • Permazen: Language-natural persistence to KV stores
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Sep 2023
    Ok, let's change to that from https://permazen.io/ above.

    Usually we go the other way and prefer the project page, but there's clearly not enough info there.

  • How FoundationDB works and why it works
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Sep 2023
  • Figma Is a File Editor
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Jul 2023
    You can use a scalable database that gives you serializable transactions whilst not requiring you to represent your document in the relational model.

    A good example of this architecture would be using FoundationDB [1] with Permazen [2]. In this design there are three layers:

    1. A horizontally scaling sorted transactional K/V store. This is provided by FoundationDB. Transactions are automatically ordered within the cluster.

    2. A network protocol that can serialize database transactions. Permazen has the ability to do this, you can do things like cache reads, HTTP POST transactions and so on. Stuff you can't easily do with SQL databases.

    3. A way to map in-memory objects to/from key/value pairs, with schema migration, indexing and other DB-like features. Permazen also does this.

    Permazen can be thought of as an ORM for KV stores. It's an in-memory library intended to execute on trusted servers (because the KV store can't do any business logic validation). However, for something like Figma where it's basically trusting the client anyway that doesn't matter. Additionally you can do some tricks with the architecture to support untrusted clients; I've explored these topics with Archie (the Permazen designer) in the past.

    The nice thing about this design is that it doesn't require sharding by "file", can scale to large numbers of simultaneous co-authors, and results in a very natural coding model. However, Permazen is a Java library. To use it from a browser would be awkward. That said it has fairly minimal reliance on the JDK. You could probably auto-convert it to Kotlin and then use Kotlin/JS or Kotlin/WASM. But frankly it'd be easier to do that architecture as a real desktop app where you aren't boxed in by the browser's limitations.

    The writeup mentions a couple of reasons for not using a database:

    1. Relational/object mismatch. Permazen+FDB solves this.

    2. Cost of a database vs S3. This is mostly an artifact of cloud pricing. Cloud is highly profitable but most of the margin comes from managed databases and other very high level services, not commodity byte storage. Given that FDB is free you could eliminate the cost gap by just running the database yourself, and especially, running it on your own metal.

    Because Permazen has a pluggable KV backend and because there are backends that write to files, you can have both worlds - a scalable DB in the cloud and also write to files for individual cases where people don't want to store data on your backend.

    https://www.foundationdb.org/ [1]

    https://permazen.io/ [2]

  • FoundationDB: A Distributed Key-Value Store
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jul 2023
    You can do online schema changes with FDB, it all depends on what you do with the FDB primitives.

    A great example of how to best utilize FDB is Permazen [1], described well in its white paper [2].

    Permazen is a Java library, so it can be utilized from any JVM language e.g. via Truffle you get Python, JavaScript, Ruby, WASM + any bytecode language. It supports any sorted K/V backend so you can build and test locally with a simple disk or in memory impl, or RocksDB, or even a regular SQL database. Then you can point it at FoundationDB later when you're ready for scaling.

    Permazen is not a SQL implementation. Instead it's "language integrated" meaning you write queries using the Java collections library and some helpers, in particular, NavigableSet and NavigableMap. In effect you write and hard code your query plans. However, for this you get many of the same features an RDBMS would have and then some more, for example you get indexes, indexes with compound keys, strongly typed and enforced schemas with ONLINE updates, strong type safety during schema changes (which are allowed to be arbitrary), sophisticated transaction support, tight control over caching and transactional "copy out", constraints and the equivalent of foreign key constraints with better validation semantics than what JPA or SQL gives you, you can define any custom data derivation function for new kinds of "index", a CLI for ad-hoc querying, and a GUI for exploration of the data.

    Oh yes, it also has a Raft implementation, so if you want multi-cluster FDB with Raft-driven failover you could do that too (iirc, FDB doesn't have this out of the box).

    FDB has something a bit like this in its Record layer, but it's nowhere near as powerful or well thought out. Permazen is obscure and not widely used, but it's been deployed to production as part of a large US 911 dispatching system and is maintained.

    Incremental schema evolution is possible because Permazen stores schema data in the K/V store, along with a version for each persisted object (row), and upgrades objects on the fly when they're first accessed.

    [1] https://permazen.io/

    [2] https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/permazen/permazen@master/permaze...

  • Warp: Lightweight Multi-Key Transactions for Key-Value Stores
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 May 2022
  • Persism 1.0.1 released - A zero ceremony ORM for Java
    3 projects | /r/java | 2 Mar 2021
    Compare to https://github.com/permazen/permazen ?
  • Introducing Weightless, an extremely easy to use database mapping library for Java
    2 projects | /r/java | 31 Jan 2021
    Did you see https://github.com/permazen/permazen - it's in the same space

What are some alternatives?

When comparing MapDB and Permazen you can also consider the following projects:

Chronicle Map - Replicate your Key Value Store across your network, with consistency, persistance and performance.

Doma 2 - DAO oriented database mapping framework for Java 8+

H2 - H2 is an embeddable RDBMS written in Java.

ObjectiveSql - Writing SQL using Java syntax

JetBrains Xodus - Transactional schema-less embedded database used by JetBrains YouTrack and JetBrains Hub.

Persism - A zero ceremony ORM for Java

Redisson - Redisson - Easy Redis Java client and Real-Time Data Platform. Sync/Async/RxJava/Reactive API. Over 50 Redis based Java objects and services: Set, Multimap, SortedSet, Map, List, Queue, Deque, Semaphore, Lock, AtomicLong, Map Reduce, Bloom filter, Spring Cache, Tomcat, Scheduler, JCache API, Hibernate, RPC, local cache ...

hyhac - A HyperDex Haskell Client

Jedis - Redis Java client

moditect - Tooling for the Java Module System

Exposed - Kotlin SQL Framework

QueryStream - Build JPA Criteria queries using a Stream-like API