liveviews VS API Platform

If you want to try the liveview approach but not ready to work with Elixir / Erlang / Beam runtime, you can use liveview in 17 popular languages (Java / C# / Javascript / Typescript / PHP / Python, e.t.c.).

https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews

Below are introduction directly quoted from this list:

> This is a list of libraries for creating web applications that handle user interaction with the DOM on the server. These libraries take a different approach from older server-driven browser UIs that simulated a desktop GUI toolkit. They do not lock the developer into working with predefined components; most operate at the level of HTML (DOM) rather than GUI widgets.

> The list strives to be complete rather than awesome. You may see libraries that are not maintained or ready for production.

This approach allows you to handle business logics on the server, and update the screen in browser from the server as well.

[1] https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews

That's a conflation. I'm certain for at least some, the choice is more about using a single language than avoiding JS. I'm sure there are people using htmx who use a JS backend. There are at least 5 LiveView clones for JS for instance: https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews#javascripttypescript

Nuxt, Next, SvelteKit, Phoenix(Elixr), Blazor, and various liveview-likes are popular full stack frameworks. So, although many devs are becoming specialized, there certainly still are full stack developers with demand enough to strongly support several frameworks.

The list is seeking a maintainer. https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews/issues/23

> "different" platform with it's own unique patterns and quirks

Everything OP listed was a criticism directed at LiveView, the 'Live App' functionality, not Phoenix, the web framework. Live Apps are not exclusive to Phoenix either, as there are now imitators for every other web framework now, which at least speaks to its broader appeal amongst developers. So the criticism could be leveled towards the far less mature 'Live App' libraries on PHP/Python/JS/C# and so on and on:

https://github.com/liveviews/liveviews

However there are two ways you can do this server side: 1. Use a tool similar to live view: https://github.com/dbohdan/liveviews

Technically API Platform is not part of Symfony. Although, they are both French. 😉

Probably API-platform. The website is down at the moment, but: https://github.com/api-platform/api-platform It's Symfony based (and plays nice in that ecosystem), also allows you to describe entities via Schema org vocab, has a client generator, and comes with docker-compose and helm charts. I've used it extensively to build various headless services. It's really easy to expose annotated Doctrine entities.

API Platform is a framework for API-first projects, built on top of Symfony components. Let's see how to create a minimal and lightweight starter project in just 5 minutes!

Just use a nice framework like Symfony and for an API there is a nice thing called API Platform

On the Symfony side, a headless API can be built really quickly with https://api-platform.com/. You describe your domain entities with Schema.org vocabulary, can use a client generator to hammer out a UI in Next, Nuxt, Quasar, or whatever as a starter, it comes with an admin backend, and a Helm chart to deploy on Kubernetes. Works great for APIs when paired with, say Nuxt SSGs/PWAs if you want more of a JAMstack approach.

It could be implemented with STOMP, or Mercure (goes well with API-Platform, written in PHP/Symfony), you could write your own with the help of nchan and scale it via Redis. If it's a web service, the best practices for operating and scaling are well established, Godot then just becomes another client.

Why would someone use this over API Platform?