ledger-live-common VS substrate-ledger-ed25519

Hello, thank you for reaching out. When you have set up your Ledger, your device has created a seedphrase. Based on the seedphrase your public and private address are calculated. The derivation path is the way how your private and public keys are derived from your Seedphrase. Here you can learn more about HD derivation paths https://medium.com/myetherwallet/hd-wallets-and-derivation-paths-explained-865a643c7bf2 and https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/blob/master/docs/derivation.md. Here you can learn more about managing Terra (LUNA) https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017698979-Terra-LUNA-?docs=true. Here you can learn how to access your accounts via Terra station https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4729005570205?docs=true

The mnemonic you get for recovering your ledger doesn't directly code for the private keys of the accounts. It's a "parent" seed from which multiple other seeds are derived. Read about it here.

You can read about it here, it's a bit complicated https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/blob/master/docs/derivation.md

Been seeing posts regarding hardware wallet supports, but I got confused as to which side (Chia Network or the manufacturer e.g. Ledger) would need to work on it. Last I saw (which is probably out-of-date) was this closed Ledger github issue: https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/issues/1185.

Ledger: https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/pull/1449

good question, and I actually don't know the answer off the top of my head. Browsing through the code it looks like both desktop and mobile both reference a shared common CounterValues library (https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/tree/12f8258ea4811b5023fc16899221f45612180694/src/countervalues) It's possible though the app calls the API less frequently, and uses a cached version whenever possible. Not totally sure tbh.

Thanks for the link. I see it was closed Apr 19. Timing suggests it is that issue I linked previously, should have been fixed in Ledger Live v2.29.0 (bug mentioned in an internal library release v19.10.0).

Going through Ledger Live is an option. Another one is to start a websocket proxy in a terminal (from https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-common/blob/master/cli/src/commands/proxy.js or rewrite your own). Yet another one is to modify Metamask to use webusb (https://github.com/terra-project/station is another Chrome extension working with webusb, so that's doable)

however this time the usual website for checking signatures has changed from http://ledger-live-tools.now.sh/lld-signatures it is now redirecting to this https://ledger-live-tools.vercel.app/lld-signatures

Ive been digging and i have found some slightly beyond me but not insane code over on github (https://github.com/jacogr/substrate-ledger-ed25519 ) . It pretty new so apparently there are people working on this problem. I also saw a post on another kusama/polkadot site one of the big rmrk guys brought this up as a problem that needs to be addressed for users. there was a whole thread about it. I know that doesnt solve anything now, but atleast people are on it. In the past week i have seen alot of people making this same mistake. ive definitely lost some hair over it.

1) go to https://github.com/jacogr/sample-ledger-ed25519 - this is done by one of the polkadot devs

I don't have my computer in front of me at the moment so this will be a heavily simplified post for the sake of time, and a lack of access to my computer and ledger device. If you're like me, you might have had a Polkadotjs account created using your Ledger nano. Obviously ledger is the best way to keep crypto secure so it is assumed that there should be no problems using ledger with the new Polkaswap platform, right? As we learned, this is incorrect as it turns out there is no support for the Sora network on Ledger, so it seems as though you're screwed. Except you're not, the other day another redditor pointed me to a piece of code that would allow me to access my Polkaswap funds with no issue. So just a disclaimer, this method will make your Ledger insecure, so just be aware of the security issues when doing something like this. Personally, I transferred all my funds to another wallet while doing this whole process, just to be safe. Ensure there is absolutely no malware, keyloggers, viruses, or anything on your computer or on any extension in your browser. Once you're ready, you can begin by going here: https://github.com/jacogr/sample-ledger-ed25519 . You MUST have a Linux or must be able to use a Linux terminal with your ledger attached ( I think ) . These commands can only be ran through a Linux terminal, if you're using Windows you may need a virtual machine and you may also need to get your Ledger connected through the virtual machine . If you know an easier method then go ahead. Personally I turned my internet off after installing the GitHub code and ran it. You'll need to type your entire phrase into the terminal with quotes around it, followed with the corresponding account numbers, in many cases it'll be literally just 0 and 0. Once you extract your Polkadot seed in the terminal, copy that and paste it into the Polkadot.js website under import account using seed. Do advanced and select encryption type, now you should be able to find a wallet account number that matches your original polkadot ledger address that was imported that has the locked funds on it. You may have to remove the account from polkajs first before doing this I'm not sure. Obviously back up the account just in case. Now, once you find your wallet number, create it under SORA network. If that option is unavailable do it under Polkadot and change it in the browser extension to Sora network . Now you hopefully successfully got your funds back and can use Polkaswap. Remember to reset your ledger device if you want to be extra secure and to NEVER give out your 24 word phrase to anyone for any reason. Only these cases are the exception to the rule, and you're giving it to a program that's not even connected to the internet. Hopefully it worked for you, if you have questions I'll try and answer them.

It's only worth it if you don't wanna wait and if you sent a lot of money to polkaswap on a ledger. https://github.com/jacogr/sample-ledger-ed25519

Ok, maybe it's easier to use this tool: https://github.com/jacogr/sample-ledger-ed25519