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Matrix 2.0: How we’re making Matrix go voom
> At that point you've just reimplemented a less-standard version of matrix with extra steps though.
There are IRCv3 specifications that allow this richer experience, and they are at least as standard as Matrix. Check out https://ergo.chat/ with modern clients like https://sr.ht/~emersion/goguma/ (Android), https://git.sr.ht/~emersion/gamja/ https://kiwiirc.com/ (web), or https://git.sr.ht/~taiite/senpai (TUI)
> but in practice using your enhanced server from an unenhanced client will always be painful
IRCv3 normally makes sure new specs don't make it worse for older clients. Could you give me some examples to see if we can fix that?
- IRCv3 2022 Spec round-up
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Long term good standing user account seems to be disabled, is it ok to ask here for advice for what looks like a automated P2P-NET ban?
First try the web-based ones - https://kiwiirc.com/ - https://mibbit.com/
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y a-t-il encore des utilisateurs de chan IRC ?
Un client en ligne : https://kiwiirc.com/ Un serveur français : https://www.epiknet.org/irc/
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Looking for a single-room web-based chat client
You can take a look at kiwi irc: https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwiirc and configure the channels it joins.
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Looking for some very specific courses. Voice acting, acting, voice over, narrator stuff, I just wanna know how people do this shit!
Their IRC link is on their homepage. If you don't have an IRC client you can use https://kiwiirc.com/ in browser.
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Ergo IRC Server
It depends. There's a lot of people on/around IRC who really like it (see libera and all the other networks), and yeah there definitely are people spinning up new smaller networks. Especially with things like https://sr.ht/~emersion/gamja/ and self-hosted https://kiwiirc.com/ , as well as really polished client experiences like irccloud, it's easier to convince people to join in.
Right now I'm working with a dev from libera on a client that aims to replicate a lot of things experience-wise from newer chat services. Hoping that with that, smaller self-contained servers can become more of a norm~ But for now, your best bets for finding activity are probably Libera and a couple of the other larger networks.
- Can you build IRC Chats between users into a website chat frame
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Lispers active anywhere else with a better topical discussion tool?
I use https://kiwiirc.com and it allows me to create a temporary account without an e-mail. I think you need an e-mail if you want to 'reserve' your name
- How to setup web IRC
matrix-rust-sdk
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Flutter seems to be having bad times internally
Yep, a good example is the element X rewrite
They use Jetpack on Android
https://github.com/vector-im/element-x-android
And SwiftUI on iOS
https://github.com/vector-im/element-x-ios
But both use the same underlying Matrix Rust SDK
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk
So they share the core part of the app between platforms, but everything user facing is native
- Crux: Cross-platform app development in Rust
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I made a crate: eyeball – Add observability to your Rust types!
The one place eyebal is already being used is matrix-rust-sdk, mostly for bits of the API that act as a model for specific UI parts in apps built on top of it. A part of those APIs is also using observable vectors from eyeball-im, which I didn't mention initially because it's not as well-documented and polished.
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Collaborative WYSIWYG document editor built-on matrix-rust-sdk and matrix-rich-text-editor?
Hello everyone, I am finally making it to all of the great talks about Matrix from FOSDEM 23, and one thing that seemed like an obvious thing that could be built on some of the new projects works (matrix-rich-text-editor, matrix-rust-sdk) is a collaborative (multi-user, live edits) document tool built ontop of rust. That said, I haven't seen any project doing this yet. Does anyone know of one?
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Matrix 2.0 — Matthew Hodgson talks about Rust in Element client, Rust SDK, IETF MLS, MIMI and more
Another important piece of the ecosystem for which Rust was used is the SDK. This new SDK was used to write the newest mobile client - Element X. The current Element client will also see its cryptography implementation being changed from Javascript to Rust, this was also made possible by the new Rust based SDK.
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Some key-value storage engines in Rust
Let's say I'll switch as soon as they start using Sanakirja. They're partially right in their analysis of Sanakirja, but their comments are more about the lack of expressiveness of the unsafe keyword in Rust than about Sanakirja itself. I'm preparing a blog post about my dream version of unsafe.
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IRCv3 2022 Spec round-up
>Well I care, that does not mean that you have to care.
The point I'm making is that the protocol being implement-able by yourself or grabbing a lib from someone else is moot, since you will 9 times out of 10 use a library.
>Again, look at the lack of client diversity for Matrix and tell me that you do not think that there is at least some correlation in terms of the complexity of the protocol.
The problem is not client diversity for Matrix - there's plenty of them. The problem is that Matrix is more than displaying a log on a screen, and most of the clients are frankly abysmal and could use a trained UI/UX owner.
>last I checked it meant using either Python or Go
The Rust SDK has worked well for me, although I can't state how close it is to Python or Go's libs. That said, I know I'm certainly not the only one using it.
The Rust lib could be wrapped into other languages (e.g, Ruby) if there's not a good SDK for that language. I don't really consider this to be an issue, especially considering the Rust SDK is maintained by the Matrix org themselves.
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk
>Add to this that the more mandatory features you have and keep adding
Don't maintain your own bespoke library and you won't have to. :)
>But I am not going to behave as if images, reactions, code blocks, threads, end-to-end encryption, voice calls, video calls, etc. do not come at a cost.
They do come at a cost, but that's the price of admission for what people expect from modern chat systems. I'd rather live in 2022 than 2004, and I grew up on IRC.
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Back to School: Free Rust Courses
I'm not entirely sure what I plan to use Rust with at the moment, however my first project so far has been to write a Matrix bot using the matrix-rust-sdk library :)
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GTK4 Matrix Client
Just for everyone else reading, the modern Matrix Rust stack referred to here is the matrix-rust-sdk: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk
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E2EE vulnerability in multiple Matrix clients
The current way we're approaching this is to split the reference E2EE implementation into its own rust crate (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk/tree/master/ma...) which can be used with any SDK (e.g. we're almost finished embedding it into the Kotlin matrix-android-sdk2 client)
Separately, there's also the overall matrix-rust-sdk https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk for clients to use as a "full fat" Matrix client SDK - as used by Fractal Next (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/fractal/-/tree/fractal-next) etc. We might end up using this in Element too in future (especially in Element iOS, where a Swift UI + matrix-rust-sdk backend could be quite a cute next generation architecture).
So while the first generation reference Matrix SDKs (matrix-js-sdk, matrix-ios-sdk and matrix-android-sdk) were completely independent implementations, each with their own bugs and increased audit surface, we're hoping that matrix-rust-sdk will simplify this a lot in future.
What are some alternatives?
The Lounge - 💬 ‎ Modern, responsive, cross-platform, self-hosted web IRC client
conduit
InspIRCd - A modular C++ IRC server (ircd).
threema-android - Threema App for Android.
ZNC - Official repository for the ZNC IRC bouncer
element-android - A glossy Matrix collaboration client for Android.
Convos - Convos :busts_in_silhouette: is the simplest way to use IRC in your browser [Moved to: https://github.com/convos-chat/convos]
gomuks - A terminal based Matrix client written in Go.
Shout - Deprecated. See fork @ https://github.com/thelounge
weechat-matrix-rs - Rust rewrite of the python weechat-matrix script.
ngircd - Free, portable and lightweight Internet Relay Chat server
Ruma - A set of Rust crates for interacting with the Matrix chat network.