keenwrite-themes VS scroll

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keenwrite-themes

Document typesetting configurations using ConTeXt (by DaveJarvis)

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Tools for thought. An extensible alternative to Markdown. (by breck7)
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Posts with mentions or reviews of keenwrite-themes. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-09-17.
  • LaTeX for publishing tabletop role-playing games
    14 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Sep 2023
    This gets styled in the PDF as:

    https://i.ibb.co/ZfZXmDn/output.png

    Various styles are packed in themes, which the user can select when exporting to PDF. At present, there are only three themes:

    https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/tree/main/exa...

    There other styles in the Boschet theme, such as speech bubbles, TODOs, and so forth:

        ::: bubbletx
  • On why Markdown is not a good, or even a half-decent, markup language
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Jul 2023
  • Millions of dollars in time wasted making papers fit journal guidelines
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Jun 2023
    KeenWrite Themes[1] are instructions that tell ConTeXt how to typeset XHTML documents (content) into PDF files (presentation). I made a tutorial that shows how my FOSS desktop text editor, KeenWrite[3], allows users to write in Markdown to typeset a document against a particular theme.

    Before it can be used for scientific papers, it needs cross-references, which, unfortunately, aren't part of the CommonMark specification.

    I posit that the vast majority of LaTeX users don't grok how to separate content from presentation. When I asked a question on TeX.SE about how to adjust the line spacing between enumerated items (spanning a couple dozen enumerated lists), the vast majority of people voted for the answer of using `\itemsep0em` to tweak each list ... individually.[4] The correct answer, IMO, is to fix the problem globally, and not waste time tweaking individual lists.

    [1]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes

    [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QpX70O5S30

    [3]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

    [4]: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/6081/reduce-space-be...

  • Lua: The Little Language That Could
    16 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 May 2023
    The ConTeXt typesetting system tightly integrates Lua. One aspect of Lua that I dislike is its inability to easily write OOP-ish code. What's impressive about the language is that it can be extended to do so in astonishingly little code:

    * https://github.com/kikito/middleclass

    With OOP in place, I was able to typeset a hexagonal grid and a symbolic representation of a neural network on top, using a more OOP-like approach. The classes are straightforward.

    A vertex defines a point in 2D space:

    * https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/blob/main/bos...

    An edge connects two vertices:

    * https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/blob/main/bos...

    A graph connects edges:

    * https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/blob/main/bos...

    A priority queue serves for ordering graph edges by weight of adjoining vertices:

    * https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/blob/main/bos...

    With these concepts in hand, we can typeset a grid and a "neural network" on top:

    * https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/blob/main/bos...

    Here's an example of the output for chapter 1:

    * https://i.ibb.co/19DCDZy/ch-1.png

    And chapter 14, where the "network" has grown in complexity:

    * https://i.ibb.co/ncf16vg/ch-2.png

    This is for my near future hard sci-fi book on AGI. I'm looking for alpha readers to give me feedback. See profile for contact details.

  • KeenWrite 3.2.0
    1 project | /r/Rlanguage | 30 Jan 2023
    KeenWrite uses themes to control every aspect of the presentation layer: leader dots, indentation levels, fonts, colours, hyperlinking, and so forth. This is accomplished by first converting R Markdown to XHTML then passing the XHTML to ConTeXt.
  • Pure Java Typesetting System
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Jan 2023
    > like font face, font size, horizontal and vertical element positioning and line spacing, etc.

    May I recommend ConTeXt?

    For my purposes, KeenType was only meant to provide a real-time "rough draft" of equations rendered inside of KeenWrite[0], my FOSS Markdown editor. That is, I edit in Markdown, then KeenWrite converts the inline TeX-based equations for previewing. When I'm ready to create a "finished" product, KeenWrite exports the Markdown to XHTML then feeds the XHTML, along with a theme, to ConTeXt[1]. The various themes[2] are where font faces sizes, alignment, kerning, etc. are tweaked. In this way content remains completely separated from presentation.

    [0]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

    [1]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page

    [2]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes

  • Architecture diagrams should be code
    16 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Jan 2023
    KeenWrite[0], the FOSS Markdown text editor I’ve been working on, includes the ability to render plain text diagrams via Kroki[1]†. See the screenshots[2] for examples. Here’s a sample Markdown document that was typeset[3] using ConTeXt[4] (and an early version of the Solare[5] theme).

    One reason I developed KeenWrite was to use variables inside of plain text diagrams. In the genealogy diagram, when any character name (that’s within the diagram) is updated, the diagram regenerates automatically. (The variables are defined in an external YAML file, allowing for integration with build pipelines.)

    Version 3.x containerizes the typesetting system, which greatly simplifies the installation instructions that allow typesetting Markdown into PDF files. It also opens the door to moving Kroki into the container so that diagram descriptions aren’t pushed over the Internet to be rendered.

    †Kroki, ergo KeenWrite, supports BlockDiag (BlockDiag, SeqDiag, ActDiag, NwDiag, PacketDiag, RackDiag), BPMN, Bytefield, C4 (with PlantUML), Ditaa, Erd, Excalidraw, GraphViz, Nomnoml, Pikchr, PlantUML, Structurizr, SvgBob, UMLet, Vega, Vega-Lite, and WaveDrom.

    Note that Mermaid diagrams generate non-conforming SVG[6], so they don’t render outside of web browsers. There is work being done to address[7] this problem.

    [0]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

    [1]: https://kroki.io/

    [2]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/blob/main/docs/scree...

    [3]: https://pdfhost.io/v/4FeAGGasj_SepiSolar_Highlevel_Software_...

    [4]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page

    [5]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/

    [6]: https://github.com/mermaid-js/mermaid/issues/2485

    [7]: https://github.com/yuzutech/kroki/issues/1410

  • Is it possible to add LaTeX commands to a markdown file?
    5 projects | /r/Markdown | 6 Jan 2023
    KeenWrite leverages KeenWrite Themes to change how documents are presented. The Tarmes theme is an example of a very basic theme, meant to act as a base for making new themes. Take a look at Tarmes, which is probably the closest answer to your question. Feel free to add issues against the issue tracker or add questions to the discussion area.
  • Converting my PhD thesis into HTML
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Dec 2022
    > Nevertheless, I would prefer a Markdown-based system

    My free, cross-platform desktop Markdown editor, KeenWrite[1], integrates with the ConTeXt typesetting software[2]. I'm working on a branch[3] to make integration containerized[3] because its installation is painful. KeenWrite limits math to plain TeX[4] so that the output can be rendered using any TeX-based typesetter (ConTeXt, LaTeX, MathJax, εχTEX, etc.).

    Here's a sample document typeset using ConTeXt (skip to page 40 for the math):

    https://pdfhost.io/v/4FeAGGasj_SepiSolar_Highlevel_Software_...

    That document theme is called Solare[8].

    > that can use CSS and MathML

    Adding CSS mixes presentation logic with content, which is something KeenWrite strives to avoid. Instead, KeenWrite implements Pandoc's annotation syntax to keep presentation logic out of the content. I've written about this extensively in my Typesetting Markdown series[5].

    You can produce some pretty amazing documents just with annotations, such as the following that I wrote in Markdown and typeset using ConTeXt:

    https://impacts.to/downloads/lowres/impacts.pdf

    > has a 100% bibtex clone for references.

    Markdown fails at references. At some point, I'd like to implement cross-references in KeenWrite. Except there's at least six competing standards for the syntax, which I've also remarked upon[6], making the choice of syntax difficult[7].

    [1]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

    [2]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation

    [3]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/blob/1_typeset_using...

    [4]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/blob/main/docs/scree...

    [5]: https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2020/04/28/typesetting-markdow...

    [6]: https://talk.commonmark.org/t/cross-references-and-citations...

    [7]: https://xkcd.com/927/

    [8]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite-themes/tree/main/sol...

  • KeenWrite 2.10.0: R meets TeX
    2 projects | /r/Rlanguage | 27 Nov 2022
    If ConTeXt and KeenWrite Themes are installed, then you can press Control+P to export as a PDF file, producing the output shown on the far right.

scroll

Posts with mentions or reviews of scroll. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-15.
  • [OC] Cancer in the United States: Heatmap Visualizations
    3 projects | /r/dataisbeautiful | 15 Mar 2023
  • Ask HN: What are you building that is taking multiple years to make usable?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Feb 2023
    It took me many years to get Scroll (https://scroll.pub/) to the point where I love it and am confident it will be the dominant language for writing going forward (replacing markdown).

    I first had to invent Tree Notation (2017), which I got wrong on my first two tries (2012's Note and 2013's Space). Then I needed to invent Grammar (2017), and then I made the predecessor to Scroll called Dumbdown (2019). 2 years after that I shipped the first version of Scroll (2021).

    Now we are on Scroll version 58 and it's blazing fast, very simple, extremely extendible, and scales very well.

    It was 90% me for a while, but recently been very much a team effort.

    It took a while to get right because it's a whole new kind of language, so there were a lot of mistakes that I made and had to undo, and it took a while to figure out exactly what was special about it and how to double down on that.

  • Ask HN: With recent layoffs, how would you advise new grads entering the market?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Jan 2023
  • Anyone interested in starting a local newspaper using new tech?
    2 projects | /r/Entrepreneur | 18 Jan 2023
    I recently started 2 new newspapers: https://longbeach.pub/ and http://hawaii.pub/. Very different from traditional newspapers in that they are: public domain, open source (view source on every page), and built using a new language (https://scroll.pub/).
  • Argdown: A simple syntax for complex argumentation
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Jan 2023
    Another cool site I found recently (via the replit guy) is https://www.rootclaim.com/

    Very cool way to present arguments.

    I'm thinking of taking that, as well as argdown, and building some easy to use keywords in scroll https://scroll.pub/

  • We Need to Know LR and Recursive Descent Parsing Techniques
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2023
    > Context-free grammars, and their associated parsing techniques, don't align well with real-world compilers, and thus we should deemphasise CFGs (Context-Free Grammars) and their associated parsing algorithms.

    I think CFG are highly overrated. Top down recursive descent parsers are simple and allow you to craft more human languages. I think building top down parsers is something every dev should do. It's a simple technique with tremendous power.

    I think the source code for Scroll (https://github.com/breck7/scroll/tree/main/grammar) demonstrates how liberating moving away from CFGs can be. Easy to extend, compose, build new backends, debug, et cetera. Parser, compiler, and interpreter for each node all in one place. Swap nodes around between languages. Great evolutionary characteristics.

    I'll stop there (realizing I need to improve the docs and write a blog post).

  • I am building a new kind of newspaper and so have been collecting and studying old newspapers. Here is one from my collection, an issue of the Columbian Centinel (Boston), from 1795, when George Washington was president. The classifieds make me laugh. Lots of Schooners for sale.
    3 projects | /r/Journalism | 16 Jan 2023
    - Uses a new language called Scroll: https://scroll.pub/
  • Start a Fucking Blog
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2023
    Also, put down Markdown and give our Scroll a try: https://scroll.pub

    It now powers sites like my own blog (https://breckyunits.com/), knowledge bases like PLDB.com, and our first new public domain daily newspaper called the Long Beach Pub (https://longbeach.pub/1-3-2023.html).

  • Programming languages in 25 days, Part 2: Reflections on language design
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2023
    > Java, Go, Javascript, Rust, etc are all regularly written with whitespace, and have tools to enforce such formatting, but they don't derive information from it.

    Ah you reminded me. A curious phenomenon I've observed with Prettier in JS and fmt in Go is languages are moving to standardized whitespace, but as you said, not yet deriving information from it. I don't know enough about Java or Rust but I suspect they probably both have adopted a Prettier/fmt like convention where all code is formatted on save. So it seems like we are moving to a world where it will be a simple flip of a switch to then start having popular languages extract meaning from the whitespace.

    > Also, Python has existed for decades and still there is little further adoption of indentation-sensitivity. It doesn't seem like a wave of indentation-sensitive languages will be coming any time soon.

    I think it's coming big time this year. I think our Scroll (https://scroll.pub/) will catch fire and be the go to language instead of Markdown by the end of the year. Then with the increasing success of TreeBase (powering PLDB and others) we will start to see JSON fall for config formats and document storage databases. A lot more will happen to, data vis will be a big one, but those 2 I'm reasonably certain of happening in 2023.

  • Ask HN: Programs that saved you 100 hours? (2022 edition)
    69 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Dec 2022
    GoAccess: https://goaccess.io/. I don't miss Google Analytics at all.

    Loom. It's not open source I don't think but I'm digging it and excited when a public domain competitor comes out.

    Our https://scroll.pub/. It's far beyond markdown at this point. I am able to not only write better but also maintain thousands of pages of content by hand (well, most of the credit for that belongs to Apple M1s, Sublime Text, git, MacOS, and Github). The stuff we are doing with it now would just not be possible with anything else, and what we're coming out with next year is super exciting. It's all public domain.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing keenwrite-themes and scroll you can also consider the following projects:

TALA - A diagram layout engine designed specifically for software architecture diagrams

breckyunits.com - Breck Yunits' Blog

KeenWrite - Free, open-source, cross-platform desktop Markdown text editor with live preview, string interpolation, and math.

Zato - ESB, SOA, REST, APIs and Cloud Integrations in Python

character-picker - Quick and convenient character picker for Windows

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hn_mining - hackernews data

djot - A light markup language

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sumatrapdf - SumatraPDF reader

mathpix-markdown-it - Markdown rendering + Latex extras (equations, tables, ...), with conversion features, for the scientific community

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