Joda-Beans VS Checker Framework

Compare Joda-Beans vs Checker Framework and see what are their differences.

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Joda-Beans Checker Framework
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6.2 9.7
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Java Java
Apache License 2.0 GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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Joda-Beans

Posts with mentions or reviews of Joda-Beans. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-08-09.
  • Don’t call it a comeback: Why Java is still champ
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Aug 2022
    That means I don't forget about fields (as can happen if you're just doing `person.setX()` all the time). It's easy to see what is what when reading it. I can delete fields I don't want to initialize at the time. Yes, maybe immutable objects are the One True Way, but C# lets me choose (I can label properties with an initializer `init` rather than a setter `set` and then they're immutable).

    Kotlin offers stuff like this too because it's really useful toward creating code that's easy to create and maintain. Go also lets you initialize structs in a similar fashion.

    Java has come back to us a decade or more late with records. They're not bad, but they're only offering one thing. They don't cover what C#, Kotlin, Go, and other languages have offered for so long.

    The annoying thing about Java is that it doesn't feel pragmatic a lot of the time. It feels like the language hates stealing ideas from others. It's Java: people steal ideas from Java, not the other way around. People do crazy things just to get POJOs including Immutables (http://immutables.github.io), AutoValue (https://github.com/google/auto/), Lombok (https://projectlombok.org), Joda Beans (https://www.joda.org/joda-beans/), and maybe more. They generate lots of code at compile time or do funky runtime stuff.

    It just feels like Java misses the pragmatic stuff and still kinda doesn't want to handle that. I feel a bit silly harping on things like POJOs and setting data on a new object, but that's a big part of day-to-day stuff and it definitely pushes users away from Java towards languages that seem "better" simply because they don't have Java's oddly strong attachment to not offering simple value objects. Yes, again, records do something - but it feels like Java ignored how people are using Kotlin, Go, C#, and more and didn't go for something that would have been as widely applicable and pragmatic as it could have been.

    Java has a lot of great stuff like great GCs (yes), lots of cool research, great performance, and Project Loom is really exciting. I just wish the language would lean a little more practical.

  • With the recent changes to Discord's branding, here's a proposition for a new tagline for C#. Thoughts?
    4 projects | /r/csharp | 14 May 2021
    I know I've been talking about properties a bunch, but let's look at Java. Java Beans are terrible - so terrible that the community has a number of workarounds. Immutables (https://immutables.github.io) lets you generate builders, Lombok (https://projectlombok.org) has their annotations that do runtime and IDE magic, there's Joda-Beans (https://www.joda.org/joda-beans/), there's the new Java Records if you want immutable-only and non-compatibility with lots of libraries, there are people using Kotlin for their data classes and Java for other things... Properties are this simple thing that lets C# work with the whole getter/setter pattern without being horribly annoying - there's just this weird { get; set; } thing that I can ignore because I don't care.

Checker Framework

Posts with mentions or reviews of Checker Framework. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-28.
  • What if null was an Object in Java?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Apr 2024
    I’m not familiar enough with kotlin to comment fully but from your description the checker framework [0] appears to do the same thing in Java.

    I confess I’m not fond of checker framework. I find the error messages can be obtuse but it is very effective.

    0 - https://checkerframework.org/

  • @Nullable et @NonNull
    1 project | dev.to | 29 Mar 2024
  • Too Dangerous for C++
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Feb 2024
    It is interesting! I experimented with creating a bad borrow checker for Java using annotations from

    https://checkerframework.org/

    It supports some level of substructural types using must-call annotations,

    https://checkerframework.org/manual/#resource-leak-checker

  • JEP 457: Class-File API for Parsing, generating, transforming
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Sep 2023
    Lombok is not a compiler extension. Compiler extensions, aka annotation processors, are offered only specific capabilities that ensure that they preserve the Java language specification. Particularly, code that compiles successfully with an extension also compiles without it (perhaps requiring other classes to be available) and it compiles down to the same bytecode. Annotation processors are used to implement pluggable type systems (e.g. https://checkerframework.org) or to generate other classes (e.g. https://immutables.github.io/).

    Unlike compiler extensions, Lombok compiles source files that do not conform to the Java language specification. Lombok is an alternative Java Platform language, like Clojure or Kotlin or Scala, except that it's a superset of the Java language. However, rather than forking `javac` source code and modifying it to compile Lombok source files, the Lombok compiler modifies `javac`'s operation by hacking into its internals and modifying them as it runs to compile Lombok sources rather than Java sources.

    Having alternative Java Platform languages is perfectly fine. The problem with Lombok is that it doesn't present itself as such but as a library or a compiler extension even though it violates the Java language specification in ways that compiler extensions are forbidden from doing.

  • I introduced Rust at work
    2 projects | /r/rust | 29 Jun 2023
    And then I found (thanks Oracle), https://checkerframework.org/ zomg, this thing is awesome. Pluggable Type Systems!
  • Checker Framework - Pluggable type systems for Java
    1 project | /r/java | 29 Jun 2023
  • Don’t call it a comeback: Why Java is still champ
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Aug 2022
    Java should adopt something like the Checker Framework Nullness Checker in its first-party tooling.

    https://github.com/typetools/checker-framework

  • Why Java Doesn't Support Multiple Inheritance
    1 project | /r/programming | 15 May 2022
    And modern (real, non-android) Java via project amber and so on has gone more and more quasi functional with its immutability and sealed and record types for effective sum types, as well as its pretty cool type-use annotation extensible static type checks.
  • JSpecify: Express specifications (initially, just nullness properties) in a machine-readable way
    9 projects | /r/java | 26 Jan 2022
    Checkerframework - a really academic take, and as one might expect from such a thing, backed by tons of papers and analysed to perfection. Specifically, this is the only framework I'm aware of that realizes nullity is a little more complicated than just a boolean yes-or-no; just like generics actually have 4 flavours for any given type: List, List, List, and List are all 4 important and unique, and nullity is no different. Specifically, it can occur that you want to write a method that ought to accept both lists of nullable strings as well as list of nonnull strings, and needs to 'convey' this nullity again on its output. You can either attempt to lift along the existing generics system in java which I think is your intent, but it's not actually all that easy to do this. After all, T extends @Nullable Number super @NonNull Number, or whatnot, isn't legal java. So you.. really just can't do that. Checker Framework solves this problem by introducing the @PolyNull annotation, which still isn't perfect but covers almost all real world use cases you can think of. I'm missing any acknowledgement in your documentation. An oversight, or, something you hadn't thought of yet? You're in good company: Both eclipse and intellij's engineers, when I asked them about it, just hadn't realized it was a thing. Point is: If you think the primary problem with e.g. eclipse's and intellij's take is that they lack academic rigour - checkerframework has you beat.
  • calling Format() on a time struct in a golang program changes the default Location's timezone information in the rest of the program
    4 projects | /r/programming | 3 Sep 2021
    NullAway or the Checker Framework should greatly help eliminate the issue. Also, when Java gets value types you should be able to define your own non nullable value types and use them safely.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Joda-Beans and Checker Framework you can also consider the following projects:

javawriter - A Java API for generating .java source files.

Daikon - Dynamic detection of likely invariants

FreeBuilder - Automatic generation of the Builder pattern for Java

OpenJML - This is the primary repository for the source code of the OpenJML project. The source code is licensed under GPLv2 because it derives from OpenJDK which is so licensed. The active issues list for OpenJML development is here and the wiki contains information relevant to development. Public documentation for users is at the project website:

SDMLib

CATG - a concolic testing engine for Java

NetworkParser - Framework for serialization to Json, XML, Byte and Excel, therefore an oviparous wool milk sow J

JMLOK 2.0 - Tool for detecting and classifying nonconformances in Java/JML projects.

Lombok - Very spicy additions to the Java programming language.

jCUTE - Java Concolic Unit Testing Engine

javageci - Java Code Generation Framework

jspecify - An artifact of fully-specified annotations to power static-analysis checks, beginning with nullness analysis.