intellij-community VS Apache NetBeans

The real-world example from IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition:

> from IntelliJ will require 1–3 plugins. 3 for Java, Docker, 3 plugins for React, npm, Prettier, SonarLint, Copilot, database, Gitlens, Maven

How old is your copy of IJ that you need to download the Maven plugin? To the very best of my knowledge, every one of these in the "plugins" directory ships with IJ and is not something one needs to download from the JetBrains marketplace: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/idea/25...

I obviously can't link to the GitHub repo for IJ Ultimate but the DataGrip behavior is similarly bundled. What may be up for hair-splitting is that think they do use the concept of plugins as an update mechanism. That is: I don't think one could download a copy of IJ Ultimate that doesn't speak Java, Docker, npm, database, or Maven. But they do use plugins such that one could acquire a bug-fix to (e.g.) the Docker plugin without having to re-download the whole IJ

I also believe this, and we're actually about half way there via MPS <https://github.com/JetBrains/MPS#readme> but I'm pretty sure that dream is dead until this LLM hype blows over, since LLMs are not going to copy-paste syntax trees until the other dream of a universal representation materializes[1]

1: There have been several attempts at Universal ASTs, including (unsurprisingly) a JVM-centric one from JetBrains https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/idea/24...

Hacktoberfest 2024 is here, and I’ve already contributed another pull request, this time to the IntelliJ IDEA repository! 🌟

Most of the code is from Intellij-Community (Apache License).

https://github.com/pragtical/plugins/commit/54096a6461f5c034... makes me long for The One Grammar To Rule Them ™

I thought for a while that TextMate bundles[1] were that, especially since JetBrains[2], Linguist[3] and VSCode[4] honor them. However, in the spirit of "the good thing about standards ..." highlight.js does[5] almost the same thing that Pragtical does which makes me feel even worse

I had high hopes for Tree-Sitter since it seems to have really won mindshare, but the idea of having an executable grammar spec[6] is ... well, no wonder it hasn't caught on outside of that specific ecosystem

1: https://github.com/rspec/rspec.tmbundle/blob/1.1.12/Syntaxes...

2: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/idea/24...

3: https://github.com/github-linguist/linguist/blob/v7.30.0/lib...

4: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-textmate

5: https://github.com/highlightjs/highlight.js/blob/11.10.0/src...

6: https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter/blob/v0.22.6/test...

Also, no BuSL stupidity, they're all Apache 2 AFAIK: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/idea/23...

And the "all you can eat" toolbox license is just a staggeringly good deal, IMHO, which also comes with a "you can keep your license forever, just no updates" which is way different from setting subscription-based licensing money on fire when your license expires. Whoever came up with that should be applauded because it really drives down my "what about" anxiety of paying subscription money for IDEs

I readily admit I am not familiar enough with fossil to know about the impedance mismatch, but I'll point out that https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-plugins/tree/idea/241.... https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/idea/24... https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/idea/24... https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/idea/24... may a long way toward finding how they think about those operations

NetBeans

> I’ll preface this by saying that if Neovim isn’t your primary editor, you should first try an IDE specifically for Java."

Seconded.

As someone who has spent a lot of time configuring editors, but doesn't enjoy it quite as much as he used to, I gave Java on Neovim a shot this summer.

There are two main routes to go - both of which are described in the article. Either install it yourself, "You read the friendly manual", or use someone else's installer, "You use a distro".

My problem with someone else's installer is that I don't understand what it's doing, which in turn gives me the feeling that it's pulling in the kitchen sink, which is exactly the feeling I hoped to avoid by not using my regular IDE.

My problem with installing it myself is that I have to learn the entire ecosystem including, but not limited to, learning how to use Neovim for more than editing a simple text file, learning the Lua scripting language, learning where Neovim keeps its' configuration files and what to put in them, curating a set of plugins for highlighting, launching code, debugging, etc., figuring out how to configure those plugins for Neovim and finally how to make those plugins play nice together.

In the end it just wasn't for me but if Neovim is your primary editor it might be for you.

> Java has one LSP option for Neovim, and that’s JDTLS (Java Development Tools Language Server) by Eclipse.

Just wanted to mention that there is another LSP for Java, https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/master/java/java.lsp..., but I don't know if anyone has gotten it to work with Neovim.

This page doesn't give any details about what's changed in this release.

More informative page: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

The IDE we use on this course is called NetBeans, and we use it with the Test My Code plugin.

I believe Netbeans is the preferred IDE for the mooc. There is a plugin for IntelliJ, but I've heard mixed reviews.

(free) Apache NetBeans is there from ages, and one person on my team still uses it for PHP/web stuff (including the use of xdebug with it) because you know, it works. Some of us care about *what* gets into the repository, not *how* it gets done, as long you're productive.

Existem outras IDEs igualmente famosas: Eclipse IDE e NetBeans.

1. NetBeans