hattery VS cl-ppcre

While I think there's a lot to love about Java, I think the standard library itself is not an especially great role model. Most of it was written a long time ago and has a fairly antiquated style - lots of mutable state, nullability, and checked exceptions. Not that the library isn't an incredible asset - it's luxuriously rich compared to working in Node.js - but if it were written from scratch today, I suspect it would look fairly different. Eg, the collection classes would use Optional and have separate read/write interfaces.

For an example of "modern Java" I would point at something like this (which I wrote, sorry about the hubris):

https://github.com/stickfigure/hattery

I have been thinking of writing up a series of articles on this. Without going into too much detail:

* IDEA

* Deploy on Google App Engine, Digital Ocean App Platform, Heroku, Elastic Beanstalk, etc - get out of the ops business entirely.

* Guice as the backbone, no Spring/Boot. I wrote a tiny dropwiard-like "framework" to make this easier: https://github.com/gwizard/gwizard but there's a laughable amount of code here, you could build it all from scratch with minimal effort. This is about as lightweight as "frameworks" get because Guice does the heavy lifting.

* JAX-RS (Resteasy) for the web API. IMO this is the best part of Java web development. HTTP endpoints are simple synchronous Java methods (with a few annotations) and you can test them like simple Java methods.

* Lombok. Use @Value heavily. Cuts most of the boilerplate out of Java.

* Junit5 + AssertJ. (Or Google Truth, which is almost identical to AssertJ).

* Use functional patterns. Try to make all variables and fields final. Use collections streams heavily. Consider vavr.io (I'll admit I haven't it in anger yet, but I would in a new codebase).

* StreamEx. Adds a ton of useful stream behavior; I don't even use basic streams anymore.

* Guava. There's just a lot of useful stuff here.

* For the database, it really depends on what you're building. Most generic business apps, postgres/hibernate/guice-persist/flyway. Yeah, folks complain about hibernate a lot but it's a decent way to map to objects. Use SQL/native queries, don't bother with JPQL, criteria queries, etc.

* Hattery for making http requests (https://github.com/stickfigure/hattery). This is another one of mine. I make zillions of http requests, functional/immutable ergonomics really matter to me.

* Github actions for CI.

* Maven for the build. Yes, it's terrible, except for every other build system is worse. Gradle seems like it should be better but isn't. I'd really love some innovation here. Sigh.

I can't stand most http libraries (full of mutable state!) and I spend a lot of time making http calls. So I built a functional/immutable http request library which has been dramatically improving my personal quality of life for about 7 years now. No idea if anyone else uses it, but it doesn't really matter.

Java version: https://github.com/stickfigure/hattery

Typescript version: https://github.com/stickfigure/hatteryjs

I've never used cl-ppcre myself, but its docs[1] claim that it provides compile-time regexes:

> CL-PPCRE uses compiler macros to pre-compile scanners at load time if possible. This happens if the compiler can determine that the regular expression (no matter if it's a string or an S-expression) is constant at compile time and is intended to save the time for creating scanners at execution time (probably creating the same scanner over and over in a loop).

[1]: https://edicl.github.io/cl-ppcre/

A few weeks back Xach recommended cl-ppcre which i found educational.

For simple string processing, there are some functions in the language, that you can find listed here (for string-specific functions) and here (for more generic sequence-handling functions). For anything involving regular expressions, cl-ppcre is the way, in particular the split and register-groups-bind functions.

I must have a serious bug in my writing about this, because this was never about regex engines -- it's about literals and domain-specific sublanguages in general. Composing DSL programs by string concatenation is such a famous source of security bugs you see it in top-10 lists. I linked to the very similar example of a PEG parsing DSL.

But any regex engine that can work with a parse tree shows the same principle, e.g. https://edicl.github.io/cl-ppcre/#create-scanner2

Take a look at - https://github.com/edicl/cl-ppcre

And here's what I believe represents the reality of the situation... Stas was indeed tired of ASDF's changes. Now the nature of what changes to make is a matter of judgement of course, but in this case (I'm thinking of SBCL's bug report request to update ASDF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1826074), it would be a different matter altogether if the discussion was centered on how best to make the new ASDF work with SBCL, but the thread reads to me like a man who had to put up with too much breakage for the upteenth time. Now, if (for the sake of argument :D) the change was of the necessary kind -- think hardware changes or security issues -- I can still see myself feeling wronged, it's human to do so. Because I don't trust ASDF anymore or I feel as if they (or other people at each step of the process) have not shared enough of the burden. But from the discussions I have read (https://github.com/edicl/cl-ppcre/pull/30) what the ASDF maintainers want to change does not seem unreasonable and they are willing to share the burden. But let us say it's truly a 50/50 deadlock. Well then Linus is right, show us the code, who dares wins. And Stas certainly has enough on his plate. But that's why we must cooperate. You don't have to be a diplomat to know the difference when two people want to work together and when one party wants out. And this setting makes more sense when you read (https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1823442) where Stas honestly states he wants nothing more to do with ASDF. I don't think it's unreasonable to surmise there's a bit more going on here than plainly technical issues.

Could you just direct me to some existing discussions, in order to save time? I already read this one.

I plan to use the regular expressions with a cl-ppcre wrapper, also emulating various clojure regular expression operations. Similar to re21, which doesn't quite support the operations in the way I'd like (or match the clojure operations), and whose regular expression literal syntax is "#//".