hasktorch VS equinox

I assume you are getting https://github.com/hasktorch/hasktorch/issues/631? I suspect you need to upgrade to GHC 9.2 to work reliably on M1.

You might find the Deep Learning From The First Principles tutorials by Bogdan Penkovsky an interesting survey of native Haskell implementations of deep neural networks, and a bit more. It demonstrates some native charting capabilities, and Day 9 uses Hasktorch.

I'm new to Nix and I'm trying to set up a Jupyter notebook environment for Haskell that includes the Hasktorch package. I'm using the jupyenv project from Tweag as the foundation, and I've been able to get it working with some basic Haskell packages. However, I'm running into issues when I try to add Hasktorch to the mix.

That said, there are some things that try to do this. Haskell has a port of torch called HaskTorch that includes this kind of typed tensor shapes, and calls the Z3 theorem prover on the backend to solve type inference. It can get away with this because of the LiquidHaskell compiler extension, which has refinement types capable of solving this kind of typing problem, and is already pretty mature. Dex is a research language from Google that's based on Haskell and built to explore this kind of typechecking. Really you'd want to do this in Rust, because that's where the tradeoff of speed and safety for convenience makes the most sense, but rust is just barely on the edge of having a type system capable of this. You have to get really clever with the type system to make it work at all, and there's been no sustained push from any company to develop this into a mature solution. Hopefully something better comes along soon

As rightfully pointed u/gelisam, both Hasktorch and Pytorch are essentially the same things (bindings to existing Torch library). Therefore, it should be generally possible to use existing pretrained models. Here is an example.

I think it's likely that http://hasktorch.org/ is the library you will want to use for AI models, once you feel comfortable with Haskell.

IF (big if) it turns out you do need deep learning then doing it in Hasktorch http://hasktorch.org/ could be a fun learning project. The team making it is super nice and responsive, too

This said, if you want do do deep learning Python is the obvious choice atm, if only for copy-pasting code from examples (however do you know HaskTorch? https://github.com/hasktorch/hasktorch/ )

I wrote a JAX-based neural network library (Equinox [1]) and numerical differential equation solving library (Diffrax [2]).

At the time I was just exploring some new research ideas in numerics -- and frankly, procrastinating from writing up my PhD thesis!

But then one of the teams at Google starting using them, so they offered me a job to keep developing them for their needs. Plus I'd get to work in biotech, which was a big interest of mine. This was a clear dream job offer, so I accepted.

Since then both have grown steadily in popularity (~2.6k GitHub stars) and now see pretty widespread use! I've since started writing several other JAX libraries and we now have a bit of an ecosystem going.

[1] https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox

The elevator pitch is Optimistix is really fast, especially to compile. It plays nicely with Optax for first-order gradient-based methods, and takes a lot of design inspiration from Equinox, representing the state of all the solvers as standard JAX PyTrees.

If you like PyTorch then you might like Equinox, by the way. (https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox ; 1.4k GitHub stars now!)

You're thinking of `jax.closure_convert`. :)

(Although technically that works by tracing and extracting all constants from the jaxpr, rather than introspecting the function's closure cells -- it sounds like your trick is the latter.)

When you discuss dynamic allocation, I'm guessing you're mainly referring to not being able to backprop through `jax.lax.while_loop`. If so, you might find `equinox.internal.while_loop` interesting, which is an unbounded while loop that you can backprop through! The secret sauce is to use a treeverse-style checkpointing scheme.

https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox/blob/f95a8ba13fb35...

I'm a big fan of using ABCs to declare interfaces -- so much so that I have an improved abc.ABCMeta that also handles abstract instance variables and abstract class variables: https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox/blob/main/equinox/_better_abstract.py

For the daily research, I use Equinox (https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox) as a DL librarry in JAX.

It sounds like you're concerned about how downstream libraries tend to wrap JAX transformations to handle their own thing? (E.g. `haiku.grad`.)

If so, then allow me to make my usual advert here for Equinox:

https://github.com/patrick-kidger/equinox

This actually works with JAX's native transformations. (There's no `equinox.vmap` for example.)

On higher-order functions more generally, Equinox offers a way to control these quite carefully, by making ubiquitous use of callables that are also pytrees. E.g. a neural network is both a callable in that it has a forward pass, and a pytree in that it records its parameters in its tree structure.