gerbil VS SICL

That's a strange one! Can you go to https://github.com/mighty-gerbils/gerbil/issues and post an issue outlining this with slightly more detail? What platform, C compiler, libc version etc.

New in std library: an S3 client, an SMTP client, SSL for Postgres (enables Heroku support), better CLI support (including multicall binaries), and plenty of module updates. Plus a few minor bug fixes.

See Gerbil Scheme homepage https://cons.io

Here is the discussion: https://github.com/mighty-gerbils/gerbil/discussions/1008

Gerbil Scheme < https://cons.io > just saw its release v0.18, with many usability and documentation upgrades, and a bunch of new functionality in the standard library. A "meta-dialect of Scheme with post-modern features", Gerbil layers a Racket-like module system (the best in the world by far) on top of Gambit Scheme (compiler that produces the fastest code), with lots of libraries as "batteries included" for production-level client/server code.

I'm more into Scheme than CL, but am aware of Coalton. My current lisp is Gerbil: https://cons.io which already has a type annotation system and will be enhancing it for the next major release (v19).

Another "post-modern" natively compiling Scheme is Gerbil Scheme [0]. It's seeing a lot of attention/enhancements lately, including some bounties to implement features.

[0]: https://cons.io

This is a very approachable paper from 1990 on one way to do it with a C kernel bootstrapping to Common Lisp: https://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/kcl/paper... Kyoto Common Lisp (KCL) is the ancestor of today's Embeddable Common Lisp (ECL).

SICL is probably the best modern version of CL written in CL from a design standpoint, even if it's not taking over SBCL's role anytime soon: https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL It uses some fancy bootstrapping to have the whole language available early, e.g. their definition of class 'symbol is:

    (defclass symbol (t)

That's pretty much the objective of SICL, which is "intentionally divided into many implementation-independent modules that are written in a totally or near-totally portable way, so as to allow other implementations to incorporate these modules from SICL, rather than having to maintain their own, perhaps implementation-specific versions".

   https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL

Gladly!

https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL (which I wrote a decent chunk of the compiler backend of.)

I applaud your curiosity and initiative to explore. Are you aware of https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL?

I mean this Klein and this SICL. Self and Common Lisp are memory-safe, though the implementations need capabilities to manipulate memory; SICL encapsulates them using first-class global environments.

There is significant overlap with SICL and its associated pieces which supply many of the other parts needed to make a Common Lisp. Some of these are Cluster which provides a portable and extensible assembler, Eclector which supplies a portable and extensible reader, Concrete-Syntax-Tree that supports source code tracking during compilation, ctype that implements the Common Lisp type system, and Clostrum that provides first-class environments for e.g. run-time, evaluation, and compilation. The SICL project has as one of its goals the creation of portable infrastructure for implementing Common Lisp, and these pieces are novel building blocks that were created as part of the project.

Not really; you can do it with primitive operations e.g. here is the list in the Cleavir compiler and a paper on "magic" in Jikes RVM. SBCL also has a "virtual op"/vop language for code generation, and vops are written to manipulate objects with assembly snippets.

Both work. I basically never have to touch C or even FFI (cl+ssl being the main use of FFI for me), unless I am poking at SBCL guts in my spare time, and that isn't necessary either. I am sure many Haskell hackers are happy with their IO monad too.

It's used in operating systems, compilers and CLIs.

The Cleavir Common Lisp compiler uses three-address instructions in a control-flow graph, though it is intended more for production use than educational use.