conjure VS helix

I was going to say, in 2023 I looked around and for Clojure at least Conjure seemed like the best option.

https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Unfortunately, in the table linked above the CL support in Conjure is so-so. I'm curious what people use for CL or if it's still slimv/vlime.

I did a write up configuring Conjure with neovim here if that's something that's appealing:

The excellent olical/conjure plugin is now lua (via fennel..) but it was originally written in clojure and you can still see the code on the legacy-jvm branch https://github.com/Olical/conjure/tree/legacy-jvm

Install conjure plugin

> You mean that you accidentally "overwrite" (declare again) a function with the same name as the one you're now declaring, but you didn't mean to?

I mean I use let to bind a variable with the same name as a function. This is idiomatic in Common Lisp, and totally breaks things in most other languages.

> This I'm also curious about, what exactly SLIME gives you that for example Conjure for neovim wouldn't already? Maybe something about continuations perhaps? That seems to be the only feature I've seen from Common Lisp (besides actually being able to compile to binaries) that I'd love to have in Clojure.

I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger? That's a rather glaring omission. I also don't see a profiler mentioned, and SLIME with SBCL gives me a profiler (down to the assembly level if needed). I'm sure Java in general has great profiling tools, but how are the integrated into the Clojure system?

As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"? First-class continuations are a feature of scheme, not CL. Indeed a huge boost to CL productivity is simply allowing you to handle an exception before the stack is unwound.

1: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Does anyone know if there is a plugin like this one https://github.com/Olical/conjure for golang? Thank you in advance!

i know you said you didn't want source of other clients but this one is pretty simple so sharing just in case. it's from a nvim plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure/blob/master/fnl/conjure/client/common-lisp/swank.fnl

Nice post. Obligatory Helix plug: For anyone interested in taking this further, there are whole editors designed around multi-cursor editing.

https://helix-editor.com/

I could never turn it off completely but I do sometimes use the Acme theme during the day (it's too bright in the evening), which highlights just comments, strings, and errors.

https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/wiki/Themes#acme

You can use a snippet LSP to work around Helix not having a built-in LSP manager. They're listed in https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/issues/395

I'm probably not the average python programmer.

But I normally just create two terminals (I have a tiling window manager) and in one I open a python file under /tmp/ write my code and execute it in the other terminal.

I would probably use a REPL if it was integrated in my favorite editor ( https://helix-editor.com ).

Wow, that's been there a while: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/commit/35c974c9c49f912...

Wonder how I missed that. I'm getting a re-education in helix today -- thank you! I'll go through `hx --tutor` again before I insert any more feet in my mouth.

Interesting to see how they are gonna approach integrating plugins/extensions system, because this is likely gonna be one of the major factors affecting adoption and ecosystem growth.

Helix devs, for instance, lean towards a Scheme-like implementation. [1]

[1]: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/3806#discu...