conjure VS babashka

I was going to say, in 2023 I looked around and for Clojure at least Conjure seemed like the best option.

https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Unfortunately, in the table linked above the CL support in Conjure is so-so. I'm curious what people use for CL or if it's still slimv/vlime.

I did a write up configuring Conjure with neovim here if that's something that's appealing:

The excellent olical/conjure plugin is now lua (via fennel..) but it was originally written in clojure and you can still see the code on the legacy-jvm branch https://github.com/Olical/conjure/tree/legacy-jvm

Install conjure plugin

> You mean that you accidentally "overwrite" (declare again) a function with the same name as the one you're now declaring, but you didn't mean to?

I mean I use let to bind a variable with the same name as a function. This is idiomatic in Common Lisp, and totally breaks things in most other languages.

> This I'm also curious about, what exactly SLIME gives you that for example Conjure for neovim wouldn't already? Maybe something about continuations perhaps? That seems to be the only feature I've seen from Common Lisp (besides actually being able to compile to binaries) that I'd love to have in Clojure.

I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger? That's a rather glaring omission. I also don't see a profiler mentioned, and SLIME with SBCL gives me a profiler (down to the assembly level if needed). I'm sure Java in general has great profiling tools, but how are the integrated into the Clojure system?

As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"? First-class continuations are a feature of scheme, not CL. Indeed a huge boost to CL productivity is simply allowing you to handle an exception before the stack is unwound.

1: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Does anyone know if there is a plugin like this one https://github.com/Olical/conjure for golang? Thank you in advance!

i know you said you didn't want source of other clients but this one is pretty simple so sharing just in case. it's from a nvim plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure/blob/master/fnl/conjure/client/common-lisp/swank.fnl

It also gives you access to Babashka if you want Clojure for other use-cases where start-up time is an issue

https://babashka.org/

I've tried researching this myself and can't find too much. There's this project metaes which is an mci for JS, and there's the SCI module of the Clojure babashka project, but that's about it. I also saw Triska's video on mci but it was pretty theoretical.

Created by the same guy who created babashka which is a way to write bash scripts, node scripts, and even apple scripts using Clojure. A very proficient and influential developer in the Clojure community. This is how borkduke's neil helps us:

Not what you asked for but there is Babashka for scripting in Clojure.

https://github.com/babashka/babashka

Clojure's lazy sequences by default are wonderful ergonomically, but it provides many ways to use strict evaluation if you want to. They aren't really a hassle either. I've been doing Clojure for the last few years and have a few grievances, but overall it's the most coherent, well thought out language I've used and I can't recommend it enough.

There is the issue of startup time with the JVM, but you can also do AOT compilation now so that really isn't a problem. Here are some other cool projects to look at if you're interested:

Malli: https://github.com/metosin/malli

Babashka: https://github.com/babashka/babashka

Clerk: https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk

Being a Clojure addict, I guess I have to leave the obligatory link to Babashka too then: https://github.com/babashka/babashka (Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting)

which is now on hiatus. babashka: https://babashka.org

I've enjoyed babashka for scripting; which is close enough to clojure to allow using some/many libraries; but (probably) not for embedding.