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awesome-immutable
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Flathub: One million active users and growing
Interesting article!
My takeaways:
>"The current solutions involve packaging entire alternate runtimes in containerized environments. Flatpak, Snap, AppImage, Docker, and Steam: these all provide an app packaging mechanism that replaces most or all of the system’s runtime libraries, and they now all use containerization to accomplish this."
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>"All of these technologies are essentially building
an entire OS on top of another OS
just to avoid the challenges of backwards compatibility."
This is basically using containers to replace all system libraries -- to insure that a downloaded binary app always works.
From this point forward, we'll use the term "API" to represent not just Linux kernel syscalls, but the totality of all library calls (system and otherwise!) used by a given downloaded binary application!
Observation: API (in-)consistency (AKA "Stability") one Linux version to another, one Linux distro to another -- is the real problem!
That's the real cause!
Because everything else, everything else, is effect, not cause!
The containerization, the bloated "everything but the kitchen sink" downloads, are the effect of the problem of API (in-)consistency!
Phrased a simpler way -- there is absolutely NO guarantee of consistency between the libraries, system and otherwise, of any two Linux distros!
So if a binary app is to run on all Linux distros -- then it had better damn well better make sure that the exact specific version of all of the libraries that it needs -- are managed by it, not the host operating system!
Containers and bloated library downloads -- are (unfortunately) currently necessary to provide this!
Related:
"Linux Library Mismatch":
https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+library+mismatch
"DLL Hell" (the MS-Windows equivalent)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_Hell
Software Engineering: Bertrand Meyer, "Design By Contract":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_contract
API Contracts: "What is an API Contract?":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qM__ozdHCU
Eelcho Dolstra: "The Purely Functional Software Deployment Model":
https://edolstra.github.io/pubs/phd-thesis.pdf#page=11
Image-based Linux distributions and associated tools:
https://github.com/castrojo/awesome-immutable
Spencer Baugh: "Managing Dependencies":
https://catern.com/posts/deps.html
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Hello everyone!
If you're simply in search of other immutable distros, then I would recommend you to look under the "Distributions" section on this page.
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What is the difference between Immutable Desktops and non Immutable Desktops?
The answer to that question is out of scope for what is sensible to write in a comment. Also, because we're mostly still exploring what it is or rather what we'd want it to be. But if you're really interested, then I'd suggest you to dive into this wonderful resource. You don't have to go through everything that's found within. However, I'm sure there's something in there that peaks your interest and you can go from there.
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Immutable Linux Distributions for Those Looking to Embrace the Future
Flatcar uses 2 partitions, A and B, you boot into one and then updates update the one that you're not booted into, when you reboot it it boots into the updated one. It's like Android: https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/ab
I maintain an awesome-list of immutable resources here with a collection of talks and presentations from the people making the stuff: https://github.com/castrojo/awesome-immutable
However I'm currently focused on desktop stuff since the it's a fairly common pattern in cloud already, I should probably write it up.
Semi-related, a few of us have started a community around composable OCI fedora images, and one of our images is intended to be used as a home server built on CoreOS with ZFS, cockpit, and all the goodies you'd need. It's still fresh and we're looking for help if anyone's interested: https://github.com/ublue-os/ucore (Disclaimer: I helped start this project)
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What are good resources for silverblue ?
Some interesting links: https://github.com/castrojo/awesome-immutable
- A list of resources for people who want to investigate image-based Linux desktops
- Immutable image-based Linux desktops
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Hi, i installed the Fedora 37 Silverblue (Gnome) But DNF and YUM commands dont even exist there. what i made?
Found this page for you. It has lots of resources, including videos and guides, about all things Silverblue and other immutable Linux distros, and their tooling. Enjoy.
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What is best Distro/DE combo for productivity on ML Workstation
Note, I haven't tried these two distros myself, but I am strongly considering moving to such a system at the moment. Here is some reading material in case you're interested: https://github.com/castrojo/awesome-immutable
- GitHub - castrojo/awesome-immutable: A list of resources for people who want to investigate image-based Linux desktops
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- No updates since 39.20231205.0. Appears to be a known issue with atomic versions of Fedora.
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Kinoite: can't install wine
It is connected to No updates since 39.20231205.0 issue.
- ostree and ostree-libs have been updated, Flatpak updates working again
- Vanilla OS for gaming
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Kinoite - are preinstalled applications Flatpak or RPM?
Silverblue already only includes what I would call 'system utilities' in the base image (file manager, terminal, etc.), plus Firefox.
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Video thumbnail doesn't appear on fedora silverblue 38
Silverblue issue: https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/451
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The REAL differences between Workstation and Silverblue
UPDATE: Here is the issue on the Fedora Silverblue issue tracker Github.
- PSA - Fedora atomic edition updates are currently dead
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F37 Silverblue all new updates cause boot failure, dropped to dracut emergency shell
Could you file an issue in the upstream issue tracker? https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker
What are some alternatives?
arch-linux-installation-guide - An easy to follow Arch Linux installation guide. This guide will show you how to properly install Arch Linux on UEFI/BIOS systems, ext4/btrfs file systems; using systemd-bootloader/GRUB and systemd-networkd/NetworkManager for networking. These are the given examples but I have provided links to sections with the information necessary to install any 86_64 system
NUR - Nix User Repository: User contributed nix packages [maintainer=@Mic92]
bazzite - Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld.
nixos - My personal NixOS infrastructure
ucore - An OCI base image of Fedora CoreOS with batteries included
pont - pont, the dotmodule manager
sodalite - 🪨 A Pantheon experience for rpm-ostree [Moved to: https://github.com/sodaliterocks/sodalite]
Home Manager using Nix - Manage a user environment using Nix [maintainer=@rycee]
ublue - A familiar(ish) Ubuntu desktop for Fedora Silverblue.
vscode-remote-release - Visual Studio Code Remote Development: Open any folder in WSL, in a Docker container, or on a remote machine using SSH and take advantage of VS Code's full feature set.
ostree-rs-ext - Rust library with higher level APIs on top of the core ostree API
mainline - Install mainline kernel packages from kernel.ubuntu.com