apollo-client VS stencil

Actually, it's worse than that. Next has started throwing errors if it statically detects you even _importing_ hooks inside of a React Server Component environment:

- https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/issues/10974

- https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/issues/11167

To the point that Lenz Weber( a maintainer of Apollo Client, and my co-maintainer on Redux Toolkit), is considering resorting to a package that wraps and re-exports all of React's public API just to avoid that static analysis:

- https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/pull/11175

Apollo Client (18k ⭐) -> A comprehensive state management library for JavaScript that enables you to manage both local and remote data with GraphQL. Use it to fetch, cache, and modify application data, all while automatically updating your UI.

This currently doesn't work as expected so I have logged this issue in apollo client repo.

I understand this has something to do with the fact, that SvelteKit expects the client and server code to be completely identical - this has already prompted changes to rxjs and apollo is still pending to be fixed. I understand the reason behind being able to run rxjs and apollo on the server but

There is a long-standing issue with error caching (its absence, that is), which leads to errors being rendered as a loading state on the server side. Therefore, if you're doing SSR, you might want to design your schema in such a way that there are no intentional errors in queries whatsoever. To do so, we can use null values instead of NOT_FOUND errors (see how we essentially treated errors as data here?). Note how nothing stops us from setting the response code to 404 in case of a null value, should we want so.

Lol apollo client too.. saw this issue opened like, immediately after the release https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/issues/10231

There were some caching issues, outlined here https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/issues/6916 to be aware of

If you look at how major backend projects structure their code, it's almost always object-oriented TypeScript.

I submit for the record:

- Apollo Client: https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/blob/main/src...

- Storybook: https://github.com/storybookjs/storybook/blob/next/lib/chann...

- Nest: https://github.com/nestjs/nest/blob/master/packages/core/nes...

- MongoDB Driver: https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/blob/main/src...

- Prisma: https://github.com/prisma/prisma/blob/main/packages/engine-c...

[※Alert: The following is a code example using the Apollo Client notation, but the Apollo Client does not support Suspense at this time. Github issue about Suspense support: https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-client/issues/9627]

First a disclosure: I never actually used Stencil, only played with it a bit locally in a hello-world project while writing this post.

This is my main concern too.

I don't understand why tools like this "pick a winner" with a specific framework instead of rendering to Web Components with a framework wrapper, or using something like Stencil[1] that can render to any framework.

[1] https://stenciljs.com/

I was recently able to sit down with some of the core members of Ionic, who also created Stencil a toolchain for building Design Systems and Progressive Web Apps. We talked at great length how typically companies are approaching Ionic from a Design Team and need help building components. As a developer I wanted to talk about the Web Components that are used within the Design System first. There was a decent amount of surprise, so I thought I would break down what a Design System is and why it doesn't matter which end you start with, as long as you have both your Design and Development teams working together to build your Design System.

Examples like this bug me. The React example is using a high level abstraction, the web component is directly using the API. A more accurate example would show how those React calls eventually boil down to document.createElement()

I don’t think the Web Components API was meant to be used directly all the time. You can use a framework like StencilJS:

https://stenciljs.com/

You might say that this is the same vicious cycle as JavaScript frameworks. That's wrong, because Web Components are interoperable by design. Choosing Stencil or Lit or any other library is a development convenience that has little to do with the interoperability of the resulting components.

Not sure about Vue but you can in Angular, though my experience with React components in Angular has not been pleasant. Libraries such as Stencil allow you to create native Web Componets from React components.

I guess my problem is more specific to my overall architecture. I have components that when are placed in the DOM, have props rendered on them by their parent elements. I'm using stencil to do this.