alive-lsp VS paip-lisp

Compare alive-lsp vs paip-lisp and see what are their differences.

alive-lsp

Language Server Protocol implementation for use with the Alive extension (by nobody-famous)

paip-lisp

Lisp code for the textbook "Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming" (by norvig)
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alive-lsp

Posts with mentions or reviews of alive-lsp. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-08-16.
  • Is SLIME setup possible for Vim?
    5 projects | /r/lisp | 16 Aug 2022
    There is the alive extension for vscode which comes with a LSP.
  • Alive LSP for VSCode v0.1.9 · Add initial step debugger support.
    2 projects | /r/Common_Lisp | 8 Aug 2022
  • A Road to Common Lisp (2018)
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Jun 2022
    It's a great article. Since then, we have more tools and resources so we can enhance it:

    Pick and Editor

    The article is right that you can start with anything. Just `load` your .lisp file in the REPL. But even in Vim, Sublime Text, and Atom [and also VSCode] you can get pretty good to very good support. See https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... (also Lem, a CL editor that works for other languages, Jupyter notebooks, Eclipse (basic support) and LispWorks (proprietary, advanced graphical tools).

    > if anyone is interested in making a Common Lisp LSP language server, I think it would be a hugely useful contribution to the community.

    Here's a new project used for VSCode: https://github.com/nobody-famous/alive-lsp There's also https://github.com/cxxxr/cl-lsp

    Other resources

    I already linked to it, but the Cookbook (to which I contribute) is a useful reference to see code and get things done, quickly. https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/

    While I'm at it, my first shameless plug: after my tutorials written for the Cookbook and my blog, I wanted to do more. Explain, structure, demo real-world Common Lisp. I'm creating this course (there are some free videos): https://www.udemy.com/course/common-lisp-programming/?coupon... (ongoing -50% coupon for June).

    Web Development

    See the Cookbook, and the awesome list (see below). We have many libraries, you still have to code for things taken for granted in other big frameworks. I have some articles on my blog.

    We have new very cool kids in town, especially CLOG, that is like a GUI for the browser. Check it out: https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog

    Game Development

    See again the awesome-cl list. And the Kandria game, in the making, all done in CL: https://kandria.com/ (it just got accepted for a Swiss grant, congratulations).

    Unit Testing

    We have even more test frameworks since 2018! And some are actually good O_o

    Projects

    To create a full-featured CL project in one command, look no further, here's my (shameless plug again) project skeleton: https://github.com/vindarel/cl-cookieproject you'll find the equivalent for a web project, lighter alternatives in the README, and a demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFc513MJjos&feature=youtu.be

    Libraries

    He doesn't mention this list, what a shame: https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl => the CL ecosystem is probably bigger than you thought. Sincerely, only recently, great packages appeared: CLOG, cl-gserver (actors concurrency), 40ants-doc, official CL support on OVH through Platform.sh, great editor add-ons (Slite test runner, Slime-star modules…), Coalton 1.0 (Haskell-like ML on top of CL), April v1.0 (APL in CL), a Qt 5 "library" (still hard to install), many more… (Clingon CLI args parser, Lish, a Lisp Shell in the making, the Consfigurator deployment service, generic-cl)…

    His list is OK, I'd pick another HTTP client and another JSON library (new ones since 2018 too), but that's a detail.

    BTW, see also a list of companies: https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/

    Community

    We are also on Discord: https://discord.gg/hhk46CE and on Libera Chat.

    Implementations

    CLASP (CL for C++ on LLVM) reached its v1.0, congrats. https://github.com/clasp-developers/clasp/releases/tag/1.0.0

  • VSCode Alive extension update
    1 project | /r/lisp | 30 May 2022

paip-lisp

Posts with mentions or reviews of paip-lisp. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-05-03.
  • The Loudest Lisp Program
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 May 2024
    Have you seen https://stevelosh.com/blog/2018/08/a-road-to-common-lisp/ ? "Kludges" everywhere is applicable. On the other hand, having a function like "row-major-aref" that allows accessing any multi-dimensional array as if it were one dimensional is "sweeter than the honeycomb".

    I still think CL code can be beautiful. Norvig's in PAIP https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp is nice.

    As for the inside-out remark, while technically you do it, you don't have to, and it's very convenient to not do. Clojure has its semi-famous arrow macro that lets you write things in a more sequential style, it exists in CL too, and there's always the venerable let* binding. e.g. 3 options:

        (loop (print (eval (read))))
  • Ask HN: Guide for Implementing Common Lisp
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Feb 2024
    PAIP by Peter Norvig, Chapter 23, Compiling Lisp

    https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter23...

  • The Meeting of the Minds That Launched AI
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Sep 2023
    Emacs is so much more than a text editor! But I need to stay on topic...

    I believe your assessment of LISP (and therefore of MacArthy)'s impact on AI to be unfair. Just a few days ago https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp was discussed on this site, for example.

  • Towards a New SymPy
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Sep 2023
    Sounds like a great project idea to make a toy demo of this direction you'd like to see. Maybe comparable to https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter15... and https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter8.... which are a few hundred lines of Lisp each, but do enough to be interesting.
  • A few newbie questions about lisp
    4 projects | /r/Common_Lisp | 21 May 2023
    You could look into Paradigms of AI Programming by Peter Norvig which might interest you regardless of Lisp content.
  • Mathematical paradigm?
    1 project | /r/AskProgramming | 13 May 2023
    Lisp has great power, examine PAIP, part II chapters 7 and 8.
  • Peter Norvig – Paradigms of AI Programming Case Studies in Common Lisp
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 May 2023
  • Evidence that GPT-4 has a level of understanding
    1 project | /r/singularity | 18 Apr 2023
    A computer running Prolog reasons, and that only requires a couple of pages of code. So it seems feasible that the network could have learned some ability to reason within its network.
  • Conversation with Larry Masinter about Standardizing Common Lisp
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Apr 2023
    IMHO it's because lisp shines to manipulate symbols whereas the current AI trend is crunching matrices.

    When AI was about building grammars, trees, developing expert systems builds rules etc. symbol manipulation was king. Look at PAIP for some examples: https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp

    This paradigm has changed.

  • A lispy book on databases
    2 projects | /r/lisp | 4 Apr 2023
    Origen: Conversación con Bing, 4/4/2023(1) gigamonkey/monkeylib-binary-data - GitHub. https://github.com/gigamonkey/monkeylib-binary-data Con acceso 4/4/2023. (2) paip-lisp/chapter4.md at main · norvig/paip-lisp · GitHub. https://github.com/norvig/paip-lisp/blob/main/docs/chapter4.md Con acceso 4/4/2023. (3) bibliography.md · GitHub. https://gist.github.com/gigamonkey/6151820 Con acceso 4/4/2023.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing alive-lsp and paip-lisp you can also consider the following projects:

clog - CLOG - The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI

mal - mal - Make a Lisp

cl-lsp - An implementation of the Language Server Protocol for Common Lisp

30-days-of-elixir - A walk through the Elixir language in 30 exercises.

awesome-lisp-companies - Awesome Lisp Companies

Crafting Interpreters - Repository for the book "Crafting Interpreters"

lisp-notes - Repo for Common Lisp by Example and all other useful resources I found online

coalton - Coalton is an efficient, statically typed functional programming language that supercharges Common Lisp.

cl-cookieproject - Generate a ready-to-use Common Lisp project

picolisp-by-example - The source code of the free book "PicoLisp by Example"

clasp - clasp Common Lisp environment

slime - The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs