SyncedStore
TypeCell
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MIT License | GNU Affero General Public License v3.0 |
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SyncedStore
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Local-first software: You own your data, in spite of the cloud (2019)
This article has been quite the inspiration for many projects and progress on this front. I think we're seeing more and more developments around CRDTs and local-first frameworks / applications.
I'm working on a few projects in this area:
- https://www.typecell.org - Notion meets Notebook-style live programming for TypeScript / React
- https://www.blocknotejs.org - a rich text editor built on TipTap / Prosemirror that supports Yjs for local-first collaboration
- https://syncedstore.org - a wrapper around Yjs for easier development
In my experience so far, some things get more complicated when building a local-first application, and some things get a lot easier. What gets easier is that once you've modeled and implemented the data-layer (which does require you to rethink / unlearn a few principles), you don't need to worry about data-fetching, errors etc. as much as in a regular "API-based" app.
Another interesting video I recommend on this topic is about Linear's "Sync Engine" which employs some of the local-first techniques as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2m3jaJixU
- SyncedStore - build CRDT-powered collaborative Vue apps for the web
- SyncedStore - build CRDT-powered collaborative React apps for the web
- SyncedStore - build multiplayer CRDT-powered collaborative apps for the web
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Show HN: SyncedStore CRDT ā build multiplayer collaborative apps for React / Vue
Hi! Great questions :)
First of all, SyncedStore does not implement any CRDT algorithms. Credits for this go to Yjs [1] (and its author Kevin), which it uses as underlying CRDT.
Yjs and Automerge are (afaik) the two most commonly used CRDT implementations. Both have their pros and cons, but Yjs has focused a lot on performance [2].
Automerge has a bit friendlier "Immer style" [3] API. I'm not too familiar with @localfirst/state, but it seems to add a Redux style API on top of Automerge.
My approach with SyncedStore was really to provide an API on top of Yjs that's as simple as possible to use in React / Vue / Svelte or plain JS app. I.e.: only use a single React Hook to observe changes, and use regular Javascript assigments to update values. The API is inspired mostly by Reactive Programming libraries such as MobX [4] (from the same author as Immer).
Hope you're still following along :) Maybe it helps to compare the TODO-MVC applications, as both SyncedStore (https://github.com/YousefED/SyncedStore/tree/main/examples) and @localfirst/state (https://github.com/local-first-web/state/tree/main/examples/...) have implemented these as examples!
[1]: https://github.com/yjs/yjs
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Web Applications from the Future: A Database in the Browser
Iām exploring the ideas (an easy to use framework to build local-first [1] apps) in my library Reactive-CRDT (https://github.com/yousefed/reactive-crdt). Feedback welcome!
All credit for the underlying tech to YJS, which has been amazing as mentioned by others in this thread.
[1]: https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first.html
TypeCell
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Show HN: Marimo ā an open-source reactive notebook for Python
Congrats OP on launching this, looking forward to dive further in! It's great to see people experimenting in the Reactive + Live Programming space as like you mention, I think it can bring a lot of improvements to how we build software. Did you run into any limitations adopting this model?
> A killer feature of Observable notebooks for me is that they provide the shortest possible route from having an idea to having a public URL with a tool that I can bookmark and use later
Thanks for sharing simon! I'm working on an Open Source Notion + Observable combination (https://www.typecell.org), where documents seamlessly mix with code, and can mix with an AI layer (e.g.: https://twitter.com/YousefED/status/1710210240929538447)
The code you write is pure Typescript (instead of sth custom like ObservableJS) which opens more paths to interoperability (aside from having a public URL). For example, I'm now working to make the code instantly exportable so you can mix it directly into existing codebases (or deploy on your own hosting / Vercel / whatever you prefer).
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Local-first software: You own your data, in spite of the cloud (2019)
Thanks, great feedback!
Although it's entirely architected on a local-first stack, I indeed haven't shipped the main benefit of this, a locally installable app. There's a WIP PR here that adds PWA support: https://github.com/TypeCellOS/TypeCell/pull/352. I'll highlight this more when this is merged.
Nevertheless, some of the benefits are already noticeable and come "out of the box" with building on a local first architecture, even if not shipping an executable yet:
What are some alternatives?
FluidFramework - Library for building distributed, real-time collaborative web applications
corrosion - Gossip-based service discovery (and more) for large distributed systems.
RxDB - A fast, local first, reactive Database for JavaScript Applications https://rxdb.info/
evolu - Local-first platform designed for privacy, ease of use, and no vendor lock-in
automerge - A JSON-like data structure (a CRDT) that can be modified concurrently by different users, and merged again automatically.
socket - A cross-platform runtime for Web developers to build desktop & mobile apps for any OS using any frontend library.
adama-lang - A headless spreadsheet document container service.
mps3 - Infraless Database over any s3 storage API.
Immer - Create the next immutable state by mutating the current one
cr-sqlite - Convergent, Replicated SQLite. Multi-writer and CRDT support for SQLite
osmosis-js - JS reference implementation of Osmosis, a JSON data store with peer-to-peer background sync
garage - (Mirror) S3-compatible object store for small self-hosted geo-distributed deployments. Main repo: https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage