medley VS crosstalk

Compare medley vs crosstalk and see what are their differences.

medley

The main repo for the Medley Interlisp project. Wiki, Issues are here. Other repositories include maiko (the VM implementation) and Interlisp.github.io (web site sources) (by Interlisp)

crosstalk

Smalltalk-80 bare metal implementation for the Raspberry Pi (by michaelengel)
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medley crosstalk
11 10
359 356
3.9% -
9.2 3.6
5 days ago almost 4 years ago
Common Lisp C
MIT License -
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medley

Posts with mentions or reviews of medley. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-27.

crosstalk

Posts with mentions or reviews of crosstalk. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-08-26.
  • Making Smalltalk on a Raspberry Pi (2020)
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Aug 2023
    I don't know why this popped up again now, but it's nice to see that some people are still interested in this little Smalltalk 80 system (I'm the author, happy to answer your questions...).

    Code at https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk

  • Ask HN: What software stack to select for this boot to code computer?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Mar 2023
    Your concept looks nice, it reminds me a bit of the Lisperati: https://www.hackster.io/news/the-lisperati1000-is-a-cyberdec...

    So, did you consider Lisp or maybe Smalltalk? Plan 9 or Inferno might also be options.

    Plan 9 comes in different variants, the "classic" one (with a Raspberry Pi port by Richard Miller) or 9front, an Inferno porting tutorial can be found at https://github.com/yshurik/inferno-rpi

    Lisp and Smalltalk can run with or without Linux underneath, e.g. on the Raspberry Pi.

    Bare-metal Lisp is available with interim: http://interim-os.com

    Finally, bare-metal Smalltalk is available in my crosstalk system: https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk

    Of course, Lisp and Smalltalk can also run hosted under Linux, e.g. using Squeak (https://squeak.org), Pharo (https://pharo.org) or InterLisp (https://github.com/Interlisp/medley).

    Or - a crazy idea - build an emacs-only machine. That would be fun! :)

  • Smalltalk-80 on Raspberry Pi: A Bare Metal Implementation
    1 project | /r/hypeurls | 1 Jan 2023
    1 project | /r/Boiling_Steam | 1 Jan 2023
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jan 2023
  • Allwinner D1 Xv6 Port
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Sep 2022
    Author here - this xv6 port to the D1 (based on the riscv64 xv6 version developed at MIT) is an experimentation vehicle for me and my students since working with qemu alone can be a bit boring and it's easier to test some feature in a tiny OS. Of course, it's also fun to work on it...

    "...won't be big and professional like gnu." :)

    Based on the experiences with xv6, we are also working on porting some other non-mainstream systems to RISC-V hardware, including Plan 9, Inferno, Oberon, Smalltalk-80 (see my Raspberry Pi bare metal ARM version at https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk) and the f9 microkernel.

    If you have any questions about the xv6 port just ask.

    Shameless plug - I'm looking for a PhD student to work on OS/compiler/architecture-related topics in my research group here at Bamberg University (in the northern part of Bavaria in Germany).

    If you know someone who might be interested, please let them know...

  • On Learning Smalltalk
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Jan 2022
    What if those already-used tools weren't as-good for writing Smalltalk programs?

    ----

    > … its own OS and GUI.

    Well there are examples of bare metal Smalltalk (I'm guessing we could say the same of Java?)

        https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk
  • Are there any materials that go through the internals of smalltalk and/or teach you how to implement a smalltalk-like language?
    3 projects | /r/smalltalk | 27 Jun 2021
  • Symbolics Lisp Machine demo Jan 2013
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Apr 2021
    Well, you can run a bare metal Smalltalk-80 on the Raspberry Pi.

    https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk

  • I bought 200 Raspberry Pi Model B’s and I’m going to fix them
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Jan 2021
    - NetBSD (https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/)

    - FreeBSD (https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi)

    - Interim Lisp OS (http://interim-os.com - this runs on Raspi 2 only, so porting to the ARM v6 in the Raspi 1 would be a nice project) - btw., this is a project by Lukas Hartmann, who is also the creator of the open MNT Reform ARM laptop (https://mntre.com)

    - (shameless plug) my bare metal "crosstalk" Smalltalk-80 (https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk)

    I'm pretty sure this list isn't complete...

    Some operating systems are not supported at the moment:

    - OpenBSD only seems to support the Aarch64-based models 3 and 4

    - Haiku seems to be looking for a maintainer for the Raspberry port

What are some alternatives?

When comparing medley and crosstalk you can also consider the following projects:

maiko - Medley Interlisp virtual machine

Smalltalk - By the Bluebook implementation of Smalltalk-80

Co-dfns - High-performance, Reliable, and Parallel APL

xv6-d1 - Port of MIT's xv6 OS to the Nezha RISC-V board with Allwinner D1 SoC

cloc - cloc counts blank lines, comment lines, and physical lines of source code in many programming languages.

littlesmalltalk - Archive of Little Smalltalk (with updates to work on modern platforms). Also collects forks and documentation on this historic system.

BQN - An APL-like programming language. Self-hosted!

pharoRaylib - Pharo Smalltalk bindings for Raylib game library

urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua

SOM - SOM - Simple Object Machine

sbcl - Mirror of Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL)'s official repository

vagrant-opengenera - Convenience scripts to run Open Genera on Mac OS X or a modern Linux.