FluidFramework
Phoenix
FluidFramework | Phoenix | |
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12 | 111 | |
4,611 | 20,579 | |
0.1% | 0.3% | |
10.0 | 9.3 | |
4 days ago | 6 days ago | |
TypeScript | Elixir | |
MIT License | MIT License |
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FluidFramework
- FluidFramework: Build distributed, real-time collaborative web applications
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Ask HN: What Are You Working on This Year?
Have you seen FluidFramework? It's open source (MIT): https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
I think the first product they're building on it is Loop: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-introduces-loop-a-ne...
- Ask HN: Apps that are built with Git as the back end?
- Realtime: Multiplayer Edition
- Fluid Framework: Data Sync Reimagined
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Woe be onto you for using a WebSocket
Full disclosure I work at MSFT and on the fluid framework.
If you are interested in this you may also be interested in the fluid framework, https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
We use websockets and solve a lot of the state management problem called out here by keeping very little state on the server itself. The primary thing on server is a monotonically increasing integer we use to stamp messages, this gives us total order broadcast which we then build upon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_broadcast
Here are some code pointers if you want to take a look:
The map package is a decent place to look for how we leverage total order broadcast to keep clients in sync in our distributed data structures:
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Microsoft Launches Google Wave
(Disclosure: Work at Microsoft, but I work in Azure and some open source stuff, not on or directly with Fluid/Office/etc.)
That's just a trademark clause for Microsoft logos and brands. The Fluid Framework itself is [MIT licensed](https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework/blob/main/LICENS...) and doesn't require exposing any of those logos/brands when you use it, so the framework itself is fairly open for usage.
I think the main thing that would slow down adoption for Fluid is that the only "production" backend is an Azure service, which isn't part of the open source Fluid Framework. [Other open source backends](https://fluidframework.com/docs/deployment/service-options/) aren't recommended for productions. Until there are some open source ones, I'd assume adoption will be limited to folks in the Azure ecosystem.
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The Lost Apps of the 80s
Within the context of the Microsoft-verse, Fluid Framework (https://fluidframework.com) is supposed to be solving similar problems in web apps, although I haven't personally played with it.
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A couple of questions about dotnet from a Java developer :)
Microsoft recently open sourced fluid framework. It is a distributed, consensus based, real time collaboration framework written in typescript. Fluid would keep your clients synced up and your server code would only have to handle when someone hits submit. Fluid Framework
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Fluid Framework discovery
The official documentation and the github repository seem clear.
Phoenix
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Idempotent seeds in Elixir
A standard Phoenix app contains a priv/repo/seeds.exs script file, which populates a database when it is run, so that developers can work with a conveniently prepared environment.
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Ask HN: Did you encounter any Leap Year bugs today? How bad was it?
There was one in the Phoenix Framework (Elixir) about issuing certificates with an invalid end date: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/issues/5737
Interestingly, Azure had this bug some years ago too leading to an outage. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/summary-of-windows-az...
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Aplicando MVVM en Phoenix LiveView
Official website: https://www.phoenixframework.org/
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Things I like about Gleam's Syntax
Since you mention Rails, have you seen https://www.phoenixframework.org/
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Building Apps with Tauri and Elixir
Thus, we set out to build a desktop application using a LiveView from the Phoenix Framework in Elixir. For the uninitiated, a LiveView is a process that receives events, updates its state, and renders updates to a page as diffs. The LiveView programming model is declarative: instead of saying “once event X happens, change Y on the page”, events in LiveView are regular messages which may cause changes to its state.
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Has anybody compared Phoenix Framwork vs. Blazor?
It seems though like Phoenix is similar like Blazor Server (using web socket), but Phoenix is: SEO friendly (first render is plain html) Light weight, scales well and concurrency is first class Easy to develop (runs a local server so you see live updates) Compiled With auth out of the box https://www.phoenixframework.org/
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Ask HN: Why isn't Phoenix/Elixir more mainstream?
Sorry to hear this. Phoenix v1.7 changed how it structures files in disk and that broke quite some of the getting started material. However, the guides are always kept up to date, so you can give it a try: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/overview.html
You can also see the resources on this page listed by year: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/main/guides... - the recent launched ones are most likely up to date.
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Emoji Generator with AI
Yes! I love Elixir :) [Phoenix LiveView](https://www.phoenixframework.org/) is really amazing. I feel so fast working in it. I got hooked after watching Chris McCord's ['Build a real-time Twitter clone in 15 minutes'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZvmYaFkNJI&embeds_referring...), and things have improved a lot since then.
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Ask HN: What's the best modern back end?
I still work on a lot of Java projects. As of JDK 17 Java has most of "ML the good parts" and has the same scalable, reliable and high-performance threading Java is famous for. JAX-RS provides a Sinatra style framework that makes it easy to write JSON API back ends. JDK 21 is just about to come out as a long term supported version and it will be even better.
I do my side projects in Python with aiohttp and think it is a lot of fun even though people tell me it is suicide (I guess if you block the thread you are in trouble)
I think "Next.js" really wants a node.js backend which has the big advantage that you can share code with the front end and back end. It's basically single-threaded but I know people who are happy with it.
The system I'd most like to try is
https://www.phoenixframework.org/
which is just great if you want to do stuff with websockets that is more interactive than what most people are doing.
- Ask HN: Leetcode for Back End and Server Development
What are some alternatives?
SyncedStore - SyncedStore CRDT is an easy-to-use library for building live, collaborative applications that sync automatically.
Django - The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines.
automerge - A JSON-like data structure (a CRDT) that can be modified concurrently by different users, and merged again automatically.
sugar - Modular web framework for Elixir
Joplin - Joplin - the secure note taking and to-do app with synchronisation capabilities for Windows, macOS, Linux, Android and iOS.
hotwire-rails - Use Hotwire in your Ruby on Rails app
Command Line Parser - The best C# command line parser that brings standardized *nix getopt style, for .NET. Includes F# support
kitto - Kitto is a framework for interactive dashboards written in Elixir
crdt-event-fold - A Haskell library providing a garbage collected CRDT event accumulation datatype.
trot - An Elixir web micro-framework.
rsocket-java - Java implementation of RSocket
RIG - Create low-latency, interactive user experiences for stateless microservices.