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wayland-explorer discussion
wayland-explorer reviews and mentions
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PCSX2 Disables Wayland Support
Wayland is good until you hit the corner cases that they decided to abandon, without leaving any alternatives. We can always have extra protocol that can be optionally enabled, but good luck with standardizing that. It feels as if Wayland people are abusing their committee to keep Wayland as-is, instead of extending it. The protocol dashboard[1] doesn't look exactly good.
[1]: https://wayland.app/protocols/
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Inter-process Communication between two programs on Linux.
Wayland is itself an IPC system (that uses UNIX domain sockets). I would make a custom Wayland protocol (if there isn't already an appropriate one available, look here: https://wayland.app/protocols/). You can define the protocol in XML and generate the boilerplate code in C using wayland-scanner. I assume smithay also has an equivalent of wayland-scanner.
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The reality of Wayland input methods in 2022
https://wayland.app/protocols/ and https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ are just API references.
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Swingland: Recreating Java Swing for Wayland
Given I will be using most of the Wayland protocol to achieve anything (it's minimal) and Wayland is well specified then the 'start at the bottom and build up' design pattern fits. Wayland has a wire protocol based on a Unix socket, and usefully Java has supported Unix sockets since release 16, so I can write everything in Java to (de)serialise messages. This gets me going quickly, providing positive feedback that I'm on the right track..
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Red Hat considers Xorg “deprecated” and will remove it in the next RHEL
The core is bare-bones, there are numerous standard protocols since, and many other are in standardization. Here is a site to review their state: https://wayland.app/protocols/
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Unix philosophy and compositor development
There is some lock-in in some places where tools adopt a protocol that is only implemented by wlroots compositors, or only implemented by KDE, etc, but I suspect this will improve over time as protocols stabilise ( and you can browse the available protocols here: https://wayland.app/protocols/ )
- Wayland Explorer
- X12
- A better way to read Wayland documentation
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Is it placebo or is X11 more stable than Wayland
So that brings me to Wayland Protocols!. In X11 land, X11 defines a lot of behaviors for you. There is no such definition in Wayland-land by design - this is to give compositors a lot more freedom and flexibility in how they function. It also means that it required time for protocols to develop to cover all of the things that we would need in a desktop window compositor to bring it up to snuff for desktop usage. These protocols evolved through the past 4-5 years of everybody seeing it's shortcomings on a Desktop system compared to a mobile phone based UI. With the latest fractional scaling protocol we have more or less finally "closed the gap" between Wayland and Xorg on the desktop - it's just a matter of compositors implementing full support for all of the protocols people want.
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vially/wayland-explorer is an open source project licensed under MIT License which is an OSI approved license.
The primary programming language of wayland-explorer is TypeScript.
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