Iceberg Alternatives

iceberg reviews and mentions

• LSP could have been better
  12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Oct 2023

  The problem with the filesystem is that it privileges organization scheme which isn’t the best one for every editing task. This makes, for example, implementation inheritance hard because your class has a bunch of invisible code in it. But, it you could expand all the superclass methods into a single view and then have edits automatically integrated into the appropriate places, this wouldn’t be as much of a problem.

  Java’s filesystem hierarchy is a great example of a “fileout” format for the sort of environment I’m talking about. Another example here is smalltalk repositories generated by Iceberg: https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg

• Pharo 11, the pure object-oriented language and environment is released!
  7 projects | /r/programming | 11 May 2023

  and looking at sample git commit (I assume this was done in Iceberg): https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/pull/1687/files

• Stop Writing Dead Programs
  1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Oct 2022

  By committing the code to a git repo and having a code review like every other language out there.

  I'm guessing you have never tried these things but image based Smalltalk implementations have supported VCS for decades now, literally. In Pharo this is with git using Iceberg:

  https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg

  They even wrote a tutorial to make it easier: https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/wiki/Tutorial

  It's not magic, it's not even a problem, because the problem you're imagining doesn't actually exist. So long as the user of the system has at least half a brain (and maybe less) they will be capable of distributing their code with git these days.

• Design Principles Behind Smalltalk (2001)
  2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 May 2022

  Iceberg for Pharo: https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg

  Monticello: http://www.wiresong.ca/monticello/

  I haven't used the latter, but the former is easy to use and based on libgit. Create a new repository, select the packages that go into it, make the initial commit. After that it'll tell you when the changes don't match the repo. You can select down to the method level since it's aware of the language's syntax and semantics. The generated repository looks like the Iceberg repo itself, a collection of directories for the packages and then .st files for the classes and their contents.

• Pharo 10
  7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Apr 2022

  > a copy of your code the environment does some extra epicycles to copy it outside

  Iceberg https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg is the Git/etc. integration built into Pharo and works extremely well. You don't need to "file out" code if that's what you meant.

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