Plugdata Alternatives

plugdata reviews and mentions

• Learn How to Build Your Own Max for Live Devices
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Jan 2024

  Max4Live is what got me into Ableton, it also got me out of Ableton...

  As someone who had been using PureData for quite a while the idea of having that kind of development environment integrated into the DAW was super exciting, unfortunately the actual implementation leaves a lot to be desired; personally the final straw was when I realized that the Max process space was global to Ableton so that global variables would leak between devices (no sandboxing)... This may have been addressed in further releases as I was a very early adopter, but all of the other issues pointed out by the other posters still stand.

  If you're looking for a platform agnostic alternative to Max4Live there is PlugData[0] which is a VST implementation of PureData -- the open-source origin of Max and created by the same authors.

  And there is the Grid for Bitwig[1] which offers a modular graph based MIDI/DSP programming environment that runs at audio rate and is fully integrated into the DAW as a native solution! The Grid is somewhat limited as it isn't extensible, but it supports >95% of common use cases and is used internally to build Bitwig's native devices. Hopefully in the future Bitwig will extend it's open API surface to include building custom Grid modules -- in the meantime PlugData is perfectly acceptable patch for doing unusual logic calculations and doing left-field things like interfacing with robotics :)

  [0] https://plugdata.org/

• Automatonism vs VCV Rack
  1 project | /r/puredata | 21 Jun 2023

  Automatonism is ongoing, and if you're looking for better UX (as well as a ton of other excellent features, like making plugins and compiling for Daisy) then you should absolutely check out https://plugdata.org!

• Pure Data on Steam Deck
  2 projects | /r/synthesizers | 24 Apr 2023

  Sweet! It works now in plugdata, too!

• Max 4 Bitwig?
  1 project | /r/Bitwig | 21 Apr 2023

  An alternative for this is PlugData -- a native VST host for PureData (the open-source sibling of Max; same original author)

• Ask HN: What audio/sound-related OSS projects can I contribute to?
  22 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Mar 2023

  The Rust audio environment might need help, if you're into that:

  https://rust.audio/

  Maybe this might be worth a look, too:

  https://plugdata.org/

  It's a recent attempt to make Pure Data more accessible for less technically inclined users.

• Miller Puckette: Inside PureData – Lectures on pd/development of computer music
  5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Mar 2023

  Well, Miller created Max, which back in those days was more about composition than synthesis and relied on external hardware to create sound. Another fella took Max and developed the commercial product and developed it some more. During this time home computers became good enough for realtime synthesis so Miller developed PD which combined aspects of Max with realtime audio synthesis capabilities. Max thought this was pretty great so integrated pd into Max which gave us Max/MSP, Max is Max Mathews who developed the Music(n) family of programing languages and MSP is Miller S. Puckette.

  I would not say that pd or Max/MSP is more approachable, they are pretty even these days unless you stick to vanilla pd with no externals which almost no one does, the main differences is that Max/MSP gives you all you need out of the box but pd can run just about anywhere including in plugins if you are that sort. Max/MSP is considerably more modern in aesthetic but PlugData[0] and PurrData[1] offer more modern interfaces for pd with a few new tricks, PlugData is a plugin version of pd (also standalone), Purrdata is a JavaScript rewrite of the interface with prepackaged externals and solid documentation. And we have a handful of other varieties of pd each which have their own slant and can be found on puredata.info.

  0: https://plugdata.org

• Any programmers here? Curious how people have combined coding and music.
  7 projects | /r/edmproduction | 22 Dec 2022

  Not a programmer, but a producer here, and I’m interesting in getting into programming and I don’t know much about it but I want to learn JUCE (and Pure Data; which I know is also available now as a vst! and here’s a link for that https://github.com/plugdata-team/plugdata

• Ask HN: Is there a great DAG framework for Python?
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Dec 2022

  This is an important objective of the rapidly-progressing plugdata project! The patcher is based on pure data so you can live patch yourself into deep space with any GP computer (a RasPi works fine), but has a sleek, calm, efficient, and themeable UI. In the last couple of weeks has grown a compiler that is working in its preliminary form both compiling in to C and flashing a Daisy synth dev board. The eventual hope is to gain compatibility across microcontrollers for not just audio synthesis, but for any creative purpose.

  The project is here: https://github.com/plugdata-team/plugdata

  The builds are coming thick and fast. 0.6.2 is so far behind the daily builds right now that 0.6.3 is going to be an enormous leap in functionality. Tim and the development team are doing a spectacular job of staying focused and cranking out bugfixes and features sometimes multiple times a day.

• Max Mobile
  1 project | /r/MaxMSP | 10 Dec 2022
• Good to learn pd and max msp in parallel for better understanding?
  1 project | /r/puredata | 26 Oct 2022
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