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doc reviews and mentions
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How do you think about version number management?
- it is possible to subscribe on the changes using RSS (this is a feature of the 40ANTS-DOC documentation builder).
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From Common Lisp to Julia
So, the article is harsh on CL: YMMV. Also, your goal may vary: I want to build and ship (web) applications, and so far Julia doesn't look attractive to me (at all). Super fast incremental development, build a standalone binary and deploy on my VPS or ship an Electron window? done. Problem(s) solved, let's focus on my app please.
The author doesn't mention a few helpful things:
- editor support: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... Emacs is first class, Portacle is an Emacs easy to install (3 clicks), Vim, Atom support is (was?) very good, Sublime Text seems good (it has an interactive debugger with stack frame inspection), VSCode sees good work underway, the Alive extension is new, usable but hard to install yet, LispWorks is proprietary and is more like Smalltalk, with many graphical windows to inspect your running application, Geany has simple and experimental support, Eclipse has basic support, Lem is a general purpose editor written in CL, it is Emacs-like and poorely documented :( we have Jupyter notebooks and simpler terminal-based interactive REPLs: cl-repl is like ipython.
So, one could complain five years ago easily about the lack of editor support, know your complaint should be more evolved than a Emacs/Vim dichotomy.
- package managers: Quicklisp is great, very slick and the ecosystem is very stable. When/if you encounter its limitations, you can use: Ultralisp, a Quicklisp distribution that ships every 5 minutes (but it doesn't check that all packages load correctly together), Qlot is used for project-local dependencies, where you pin each one precisely, CLPM is a new package manager that fixes some (all?) Quicklisp limitations
> [unicode, threading, GC…] All of these features are left to be implemented by third-party libraries
this leads to think that no implementation implements unicode or threading support O_o
> most of the language proper is not generic
mention generic-cl? https://github.com/alex-gutev/generic-cl/ (tried quickly, not intensively)
Documentation: fair points, but improving etc. Example of a new doc generator: https://40ants.com/doc/
Also I'd welcome a discussion about Coalton (Haskell-like type system on top of CL).
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Kons-9 update – 3D Common Lisp system now on MacOS and Linux
Great news! Feedback: I guess it's time to start working on documentation ;) The readme doesn't say what the system does. I guess you could maintain a high overview "manually", and in parallel set up a documentation system (40ants doc is kinda cool). Best,
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Favorite Lisp project? Shameless plugs welcome & encouraged!
- and 40ANTS-DOC builder.
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Why Turtl Switched from Common Lisp to JavaScript
That is why I've put about half of this year into the Common Lisp documentation generator for all of my libraries.
If you are interested, please read it's docs and join the effort of making good documentation for CL projects: https://40ants.com/doc/
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Does everyone here manually specify the entire project's dependency tree in .asd files?
Here is an example of package inferred system. ASD file refers only a few "root" modules:https://github.com/40ants/doc/blob/master/40ants-doc.asd#L14-L16
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40ants/doc is an open source project licensed under GNU General Public License v3.0 or later which is an OSI approved license.
The primary programming language of doc is Common Lisp.