Why We're Moving on from Firebase

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  • supabase

    The open source Firebase alternative.

  • [Firebase founder]

    I no longer work at Firebase / Google, but two points:

    1. There may be issues with the GCP integrations & UX/DX, but GCP integration is good for many customers and necessary for the future of the business.

    One of the common failure modes for the 2011-2014 crop of Backend-as-a-Service offerings was their inability to technically support large customers. The economics of developer tooling are a super-power-law. So, if you hope to pay your employees you'll need to grow with your biggest customers.

    Eventually, as they become TheNextBigThing, your biggest customers end up wanting the bells and whistles that only a Big Cloud Platform provide.

    This was a part of the reason we chose to join Google, and why the Firebase team really really really pushed hard to integrate with GCP at a project, billing, and product level (philosophy: Firebase exposed the product from the client, GCP from the server) despite all the organizational/political overhead.

    2. I'm excited to see the next-gen Firebases do well. It has been 10 years since we launched and there are now some great innovations in the space. I like the way Supabase (https://supabase.com/) has exposed Postgres and InstantDB (https://www.instantdb.com) graphdb+realtime is really promising.

  • pocketbase

    Open Source realtime backend in 1 file

  • I've been playing with Pocketbase which uses SQLite:

    https://pocketbase.io/

  • SurveyJS

    Open-Source JSON Form Builder to Create Dynamic Forms Right in Your App. With SurveyJS form UI libraries, you can build and style forms in a fully-integrated drag & drop form builder, render them in your JS app, and store form submission data in any backend, inc. PHP, ASP.NET Core, and Node.js.

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  • Directus

    The Modern Data Stack 🐰 — Directus is an instant REST+GraphQL API and intuitive no-code data collaboration app for any SQL database.

  • I have to also mention https://directus.io/ here. Coming from Strapi, Feathers.js and Supabase i have to admit it is the closest competitor to Supabase i know. There are things Supabase is doing better but the Admin Interface and the Customization Capabilities of Directus are just unmatched.

  • SQLDelight

    SQLDelight - Generates typesafe Kotlin APIs from SQL

  • SQLDelight had neat built in support for this

    https://cashapp.github.io/sqldelight/

  • thin-backend

    🔥 Thin Backend is a Blazing Fast, Universal Web App Backend for Making Realtime Single Page Apps

  • Check out thin.dev https://thin.dev/ It uses SQL DDL statements literally as the building blocks for everything.

  • sst

    Build modern full-stack applications on AWS

  • Appwrite

    Build like a team of hundreds_

  • I've found appwrite to be a potential contender for db + auth.

    https://appwrite.io

  • InfluxDB

    Power Real-Time Data Analytics at Scale. Get real-time insights from all types of time series data with InfluxDB. Ingest, query, and analyze billions of data points in real-time with unbounded cardinality.

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  • wundergraph

    WunderGraph is a Backend for Frontend Framework to optimize frontend, fullstack and backend developer workflows through API Composition.

  • I'm the founder of WunderGraph (https://wundergraph.com) and I'd like to mention it as an open source alternative as well.

    What makes WunderGraph different is the focus on integrations. You can easily integrate internal and 3rd party APIs, and choose your own client. We generate code e.g. using swr, so you can build on top of existing ecosystems.

    We're also currently building a cloud version, which uses fly.io machines to be able to scale functions to zero and even run a SQLite database that can "sleep". I'd love to hear people's opinion.

    Here's a video of the cloud alpha that'll be launched soon: https://youtu.be/N8DFjh7FjLU

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