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5. Message streaming (gRPC streams are amazing)
I can think of a whole host of features that can be built off of protos (I've even built ORMs off of protobuffs for simple things [0]). The value prop is there IMO. HTTP + json APIs are a local minima. The biggest concerns "I want to be able to view the data that is being sent back and forth" is a tooling consideration (curl ... isn't showing you the voltages from the physical layer, it is decoded). Buff is building that tooling.
[0] - https://github.com/CaperAi/pronto
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`proto_library` for building the `.bin` file from protos works great. Generating stubs/messages for "all" languages does not. Each language does not want to implement gRPC rules, the gRPC team does not want to implement rules for each language. Sort of a deadlock situation. For example:
- C++: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/cc_grpc_libra...
- Python: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/python_rules....
- ObjC: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/objc_grpc_lib...
- Java: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/blob/master/java_grpc_libr...
- Go (different semantics than all of the other): https://github.com/bazelbuild/rules_go/blob/master/proto/def...
But there's also no real cohesion within the community. The biggest effort to date has been in https://github.com/stackb/rules_proto which integrates with gazelle.
tl;dr: Low alignment results in diverging implementations that are complicated to understand for newcomers. Buff's approach is much more appealing as it's a "this is the one way to do the right thing" and having it just work by detecting `proto_library` and doing all of the linting/registry stuff automagically in CI would be fantastic.
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`proto_library` for building the `.bin` file from protos works great. Generating stubs/messages for "all" languages does not. Each language does not want to implement gRPC rules, the gRPC team does not want to implement rules for each language. Sort of a deadlock situation. For example:
- C++: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/cc_grpc_libra...
- Python: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/python_rules....
- ObjC: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/objc_grpc_lib...
- Java: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/blob/master/java_grpc_libr...
- Go (different semantics than all of the other): https://github.com/bazelbuild/rules_go/blob/master/proto/def...
But there's also no real cohesion within the community. The biggest effort to date has been in https://github.com/stackb/rules_proto which integrates with gazelle.
tl;dr: Low alignment results in diverging implementations that are complicated to understand for newcomers. Buff's approach is much more appealing as it's a "this is the one way to do the right thing" and having it just work by detecting `proto_library` and doing all of the linting/registry stuff automagically in CI would be fantastic.
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`proto_library` for building the `.bin` file from protos works great. Generating stubs/messages for "all" languages does not. Each language does not want to implement gRPC rules, the gRPC team does not want to implement rules for each language. Sort of a deadlock situation. For example:
- C++: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/cc_grpc_libra...
- Python: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/python_rules....
- ObjC: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/objc_grpc_lib...
- Java: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/blob/master/java_grpc_libr...
- Go (different semantics than all of the other): https://github.com/bazelbuild/rules_go/blob/master/proto/def...
But there's also no real cohesion within the community. The biggest effort to date has been in https://github.com/stackb/rules_proto which integrates with gazelle.
tl;dr: Low alignment results in diverging implementations that are complicated to understand for newcomers. Buff's approach is much more appealing as it's a "this is the one way to do the right thing" and having it just work by detecting `proto_library` and doing all of the linting/registry stuff automagically in CI would be fantastic.
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`proto_library` for building the `.bin` file from protos works great. Generating stubs/messages for "all" languages does not. Each language does not want to implement gRPC rules, the gRPC team does not want to implement rules for each language. Sort of a deadlock situation. For example:
- C++: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/cc_grpc_libra...
- Python: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/python_rules....
- ObjC: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/bazel/objc_grpc_lib...
- Java: https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/blob/master/java_grpc_libr...
- Go (different semantics than all of the other): https://github.com/bazelbuild/rules_go/blob/master/proto/def...
But there's also no real cohesion within the community. The biggest effort to date has been in https://github.com/stackb/rules_proto which integrates with gazelle.
tl;dr: Low alignment results in diverging implementations that are complicated to understand for newcomers. Buff's approach is much more appealing as it's a "this is the one way to do the right thing" and having it just work by detecting `proto_library` and doing all of the linting/registry stuff automagically in CI would be fantastic.
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