Effekt, a research language with effect handlers and lightweight polymorphism

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  • koka

    Koka language compiler and interpreter

    So I would say this echoes my experience with it so far -- it is definitely a work in progress! However, I tend to approach Koka as if it were Standard ML with an effect system (up to a point), so the lack of a full imperative API hasn't been felt too much. I am more missing ad-hoc polymorphism than imperative tooling.

    I am not sure I understand your comment about mut variables; my understanding is there are two types of mutable variables in Koka -- 'local' and 'ref'. 'local' is a locally mutable variable, and 'refs' are globally shareable. A 'ref' can be shared between functions, 'local' is just to give an imperative API using mutable variables. How 'local' works kind of confuses me so I tend to avoid it altogether in favour of local names (i.e. 'val' rather than 'var'). 'ref' seems quite usable to me and seems to reflect the SML usage of it.

    I have felt the pain of a lack of an array, but I ported over an Okasaki data structure which has served well for a random-update, sequential data structure. Their data structures in the stdlib just have comments that say 'TODO': https://github.com/koka-lang/koka/blob/master/lib/std/data/m... that I am hoping are open to pull requests.

  • effekt

    A research language with effect handlers and lightweight effect polymorphism

    How does this compare to other effect-oriented languages like Koka, Frank, and Eff?

    I've been doing some work with Koka lately, but I briefly looked into the other three (including Effekt) and it mostly came down to, 'Koka seems most active in development'[1] and 'Koka had the easiest to use documentation for me'[2].

    [1] E.g. https://github.com/effekt-lang/effekt had its last commit back in June; https://github.com/frank-lang/frank last commit last year; but https://github.com/koka-lang/koka last update was Oct 15. Effekt seems semi-active, at least, compared to Frank. While stability is good, I wouldn't expect it in a language actively being used for research.

    [2] Comparing https://koka-lang.github.io/koka/doc/book.html and https://effekt-lang.org/docs/ and https://www.eff-lang.org/learn/

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  • frank

    Frank compiler (by frank-lang)

    How does this compare to other effect-oriented languages like Koka, Frank, and Eff?

    I've been doing some work with Koka lately, but I briefly looked into the other three (including Effekt) and it mostly came down to, 'Koka seems most active in development'[1] and 'Koka had the easiest to use documentation for me'[2].

    [1] E.g. https://github.com/effekt-lang/effekt had its last commit back in June; https://github.com/frank-lang/frank last commit last year; but https://github.com/koka-lang/koka last update was Oct 15. Effekt seems semi-active, at least, compared to Frank. While stability is good, I wouldn't expect it in a language actively being used for research.

    [2] Comparing https://koka-lang.github.io/koka/doc/book.html and https://effekt-lang.org/docs/ and https://www.eff-lang.org/learn/

  • effects-bibliography

    A collaborative bibliography of work related to the theory and practice of computational effects

    I think it goes back to the neverending quest to find ways of representing computation that allows of ease of composition, changing implementation details, eliminating classes of errors by construction, etc. Monads have had some success in this arena, but they have notable issues with composition; monad transformers help, but can become unwieldy in their own ways.

    An alternative are effects, hypothetically allowing for ease in building programs as separate but composeable components which can then be freely mixed in or swapped out. In practice I have found working with effect systems in Haskell via libraries stresses the type system so much you end up with scoped type variables and type applications everywhere. My understanding is that the theory behind using effects to structure computations comes from category theory's Lawvere theories (see e.g. Pretnar's 2010 dissertation on https://github.com/yallop/effects-bibliography). Lawvere theories give rise to many monads (see Bartosz Milewski's article on it -- https://bartoszmilewski.com/2017/08/26/lawvere-theories/), but with nicer compositional properties.

    This is where languages like Effekt, Eff, Frank, and Koka come in -- by writing the entire language and type system to support the theories, a lot of the pain of expressing it in Haskell can be avoided.

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