Google's new related search box optimizes for the wrong metric

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  • GitHub repo awesome-python

    A curated list of awesome Python frameworks, libraries, software and resources

    Community-run blacklists for plugins like uBlock Origin are comprehensive and well-maintained

    I think that blacklists are opposite to search in a sense. Naive search is an easy target for those who try to game its results in an endless arms war. Ads and annoyance listings are not, because those who want to game it would a) delete the specific rules and get catched by feedback, b) add rules to downplay the opponents and also get reported. In a search, there is hard to say who played low, because everyone will do that.

    I think “we” should resurrect directories instead of a search, because it already presented itself as nonsense in a long run for too many times.

    A directory is a categorized collection of links with a meaningful description (opposed to in-site bs marketing claims which these sites have to do no matter what) and few curated comments. E.g. awesome lists out there:

    https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python

    https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet

    https://github.com/avelino/awesome-go

    https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

    … think awesome cars, awesome appliances, awesome socks, awesome instruments, awesome food etc. Every area has some interned knowledge which waits for a platform to post it on. There will be ads push force just like with search, but at least it would be controlled by community, not by faceless moremoney entity. The difference with search is that search is automated and thus much more vulnerable to ranking tricks. You can then run very naive search over this curated data and get good results.

    Also it would shift trust from sites (which you want to find out to trust or not in the first place) to people who pull-request links into a directory. You never know which of SERP results made by whom. In a directory, you can see who posted what and what their rating or age of participation is. This is inevitable because in a modern world trust can only be huilt with time to a person, and there is no good will except of someone real who got tired of the shit so much that they are ready to go to lengths to explain/advise/help others and get it back eventually (that’s the core of foss idea). No corp can align with what we want anymore, because their competition is always better at money, and at SERP. there is simply no other way, in my view.

  • GitHub repo awesome-dotnet

    A collection of awesome .NET libraries, tools, frameworks and software

    Community-run blacklists for plugins like uBlock Origin are comprehensive and well-maintained

    I think that blacklists are opposite to search in a sense. Naive search is an easy target for those who try to game its results in an endless arms war. Ads and annoyance listings are not, because those who want to game it would a) delete the specific rules and get catched by feedback, b) add rules to downplay the opponents and also get reported. In a search, there is hard to say who played low, because everyone will do that.

    I think “we” should resurrect directories instead of a search, because it already presented itself as nonsense in a long run for too many times.

    A directory is a categorized collection of links with a meaningful description (opposed to in-site bs marketing claims which these sites have to do no matter what) and few curated comments. E.g. awesome lists out there:

    https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python

    https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet

    https://github.com/avelino/awesome-go

    https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

    … think awesome cars, awesome appliances, awesome socks, awesome instruments, awesome food etc. Every area has some interned knowledge which waits for a platform to post it on. There will be ads push force just like with search, but at least it would be controlled by community, not by faceless moremoney entity. The difference with search is that search is automated and thus much more vulnerable to ranking tricks. You can then run very naive search over this curated data and get good results.

    Also it would shift trust from sites (which you want to find out to trust or not in the first place) to people who pull-request links into a directory. You never know which of SERP results made by whom. In a directory, you can see who posted what and what their rating or age of participation is. This is inevitable because in a modern world trust can only be huilt with time to a person, and there is no good will except of someone real who got tired of the shit so much that they are ready to go to lengths to explain/advise/help others and get it back eventually (that’s the core of foss idea). No corp can align with what we want anymore, because their competition is always better at money, and at SERP. there is simply no other way, in my view.

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  • GitHub repo go-formatter

    A curated list of awesome Go frameworks, libraries and software

    Community-run blacklists for plugins like uBlock Origin are comprehensive and well-maintained

    I think that blacklists are opposite to search in a sense. Naive search is an easy target for those who try to game its results in an endless arms war. Ads and annoyance listings are not, because those who want to game it would a) delete the specific rules and get catched by feedback, b) add rules to downplay the opponents and also get reported. In a search, there is hard to say who played low, because everyone will do that.

    I think “we” should resurrect directories instead of a search, because it already presented itself as nonsense in a long run for too many times.

    A directory is a categorized collection of links with a meaningful description (opposed to in-site bs marketing claims which these sites have to do no matter what) and few curated comments. E.g. awesome lists out there:

    https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python

    https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet

    https://github.com/avelino/awesome-go

    https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

    … think awesome cars, awesome appliances, awesome socks, awesome instruments, awesome food etc. Every area has some interned knowledge which waits for a platform to post it on. There will be ads push force just like with search, but at least it would be controlled by community, not by faceless moremoney entity. The difference with search is that search is automated and thus much more vulnerable to ranking tricks. You can then run very naive search over this curated data and get good results.

    Also it would shift trust from sites (which you want to find out to trust or not in the first place) to people who pull-request links into a directory. You never know which of SERP results made by whom. In a directory, you can see who posted what and what their rating or age of participation is. This is inevitable because in a modern world trust can only be huilt with time to a person, and there is no good will except of someone real who got tired of the shit so much that they are ready to go to lengths to explain/advise/help others and get it back eventually (that’s the core of foss idea). No corp can align with what we want anymore, because their competition is always better at money, and at SERP. there is simply no other way, in my view.

  • GitHub repo awesome-selfhosted

    A list of Free Software network services and web applications which can be hosted on your own servers

    Community-run blacklists for plugins like uBlock Origin are comprehensive and well-maintained

    I think that blacklists are opposite to search in a sense. Naive search is an easy target for those who try to game its results in an endless arms war. Ads and annoyance listings are not, because those who want to game it would a) delete the specific rules and get catched by feedback, b) add rules to downplay the opponents and also get reported. In a search, there is hard to say who played low, because everyone will do that.

    I think “we” should resurrect directories instead of a search, because it already presented itself as nonsense in a long run for too many times.

    A directory is a categorized collection of links with a meaningful description (opposed to in-site bs marketing claims which these sites have to do no matter what) and few curated comments. E.g. awesome lists out there:

    https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python

    https://github.com/quozd/awesome-dotnet

    https://github.com/avelino/awesome-go

    https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

    … think awesome cars, awesome appliances, awesome socks, awesome instruments, awesome food etc. Every area has some interned knowledge which waits for a platform to post it on. There will be ads push force just like with search, but at least it would be controlled by community, not by faceless moremoney entity. The difference with search is that search is automated and thus much more vulnerable to ranking tricks. You can then run very naive search over this curated data and get good results.

    Also it would shift trust from sites (which you want to find out to trust or not in the first place) to people who pull-request links into a directory. You never know which of SERP results made by whom. In a directory, you can see who posted what and what their rating or age of participation is. This is inevitable because in a modern world trust can only be huilt with time to a person, and there is no good will except of someone real who got tired of the shit so much that they are ready to go to lengths to explain/advise/help others and get it back eventually (that’s the core of foss idea). No corp can align with what we want anymore, because their competition is always better at money, and at SERP. there is simply no other way, in my view.

NOTE: The number of mentions on this list indicates mentions on common posts plus user suggested alternatives. Hence, a higher number means a more popular project.

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