IndexedDB is completely broken in latest Safari

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  • GitHub repo standards-positions

    > FileSystem Access is a significant security risk and we're not going to implement this

    Right now the Mozilla position is 'defer', not 'harmful'. See https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#native-file-s....

    That means yes, they're not implemented today, but they're open to doing so later on, given further specification development and real-world investigation to confirm that the security implications are minimal.

    > No, we don't want fifteen different file access apis

    Looks like there is some ongoing work to synchronize these APIs to resolve that concern: https://docs.google.com/document/d/121OZpRk7bKSF7qU3kQLqAEUV...

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    I 100% agree Google is too aggressive at publishing and releasing these features without widespread consensus from other vendors. If they were doing so with just origin trials or behind a flag that would seem reasonable to me, but the widespread release is surely going to cause problems for these specs, when they must be aware that further development and changes is going to be required. I'm not clear how they intend to mature these standards without breaking the early adopters.

    I don't agree they're not desirable features though. Honestly I desperately wish Safari & Firefox would engage more and drive these specs themselves! It would be better to get their voices in the decisions that'll define these specs, rather than letting Google define the future of the web all by themselves.

    There's clearly demand for these features (read the comments of https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/154 for some examples). It would be better to have privacy and security baked in with input from a broad group of actors (I think we can all agree that Firefox is going to be a more useful voice than Google in that sense). It's not helpful to let Google run off and write every standard themselves, with other browsers watching from the sidelines until it's sufficiently done (and unchangeable) and then having to either adopt the existing standard as-is by necessity or to refuse to support many real world web applications (for as long as that's tenable).

    Make no mistake - Chromium has the market share to be a workable target, and these APIs work well for developers and are genuinely useful. They will be used. There will be (in some areas there already is) a whole world of web apps using these APIs which only work in Chromium by necessity, no matter how much they'd like to support other browsers. As those get adopted by users, that's only going to drive the web further towards Chromium, until other browsers have to die or adopt the (entirely Google-written) standards themselves too to support the next generation of webapps.

    This is happening on desktop in some areas already. In IDEs, for example - if you buy any IoT based on Espruino, the primary dev tool only works in Chrome due to WebUSB/WebBluetooth (https://www.espruino.com/Web+IDE), while tools like Godot Editor are already talking about Chrome-only save/load support using these filesystem APIs (https://godotengine.org/article/godot-editor-running-web-bro...), and I'd be extremely surprised if GitHub Codespaces and other tools aren't looking at doing the same. These are popular tools - many users want to use them, and they will have to switch to a Chromium-based browser to do so.

    Mobile is somewhat protected due to Safari being the only option on iPhone, but I wouldn't be surprised if the ongoing antitrust cases force them to open that up to make PWAs look like a plausible app store competitor, and the exact same thing happens there.

    WebExtensions is a case study of the same effect in the past. Chromium has so much weight that once they fully design and adopt an API and build an ecosystem around it, other browsers have to follow or get cut off. If Firefox & Safari had engaged with WebExtensions much earlier, they could have been driving it themselves and building consensus. Instead, they've had to copy every Google API while just tweaking around the edges.

    One exception, interestingly: Brave is doing some intriguing work on driving decentralization APIs for the web (native Web3, native IPFS). It's early days, but I'm hopeful that this might have the same effect in the opposite direction for those features!

  • GitHub repo wpt

    Test suites for Web platform specs — including WHATWG, W3C, and others

    I assume you're aware of the WPT project (contributed to by all of the major browser vendors these days), and its CSS 2.1 coverage is lacking in a way I'm unaware of.

    But for others who don't know:

    https://web-platform-tests.org/

    https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/css/CS...

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  • GitHub repo firefox-ios

    Firefox for iOS

  • GitHub repo WebKit

    Official git mirror of the WebKit repository, https://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit, future canonical repository.

  • GitHub repo caniuse

    Raw browser/feature support data from caniuse.com

    Uhh, IndexedDB is not deprecated and every browser supports it: https://caniuse.com/?search=indexeddb

  • GitHub repo storage-foundation-api-explainer

    Explainer showcasing a new web storage API, NativeIO

    > There's even recent work to add even higher performance APIs into the Filesystem Access API and the reception from Firefox and Safari has been positive.

    Positive as in: "FileSystem Access is a significant security risk and we're not going to implement this"? https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6284708426022912

    Positive as in "No, we don't want fifteen different file access apis, and we don't think Storage Foundation API is going anywhere"? https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5670244905385984

    And even though this is a draft created and authored exclusively by Googlers, even other Googlers are confused: https://github.com/WICG/storage-foundation-api-explainer/iss...

  • GitHub repo uBlock-Safari

    uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium, Firefox, and Safari. Fast and lean.

    it's not lightweight if you can't install a real adblocker https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

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