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Have you seen SvelteKit's source code? It looks like a toy project. [1]
vite-plugin-ssr can't even be integrated with Vue Router. They're both very rigid, early stage endeavours, full of non-statically typed code. [2]
I mean, fair enough that there are people trying to do better, but it's extremely hard to find the right abstractions for such complex builds and Webpack is definitely on top here.
[1] https://github.com/sveltejs/kit/blob/5c2665ff2280947a2fc6001...
[2] https://github.com/brillout/vite-plugin-ssr/blob/master/src/...
Have you seen SvelteKit's source code? It looks like a toy project. [1]
vite-plugin-ssr can't even be integrated with Vue Router. They're both very rigid, early stage endeavours, full of non-statically typed code. [2]
I mean, fair enough that there are people trying to do better, but it's extremely hard to find the right abstractions for such complex builds and Webpack is definitely on top here.
[1] https://github.com/sveltejs/kit/blob/5c2665ff2280947a2fc6001...
[2] https://github.com/brillout/vite-plugin-ssr/blob/master/src/...
For people already on webpack, there's esbuild-loader (https://github.com/privatenumber/esbuild-loader)
He has some insanely high quality projects. shout out to his His Kiwi Schema https://github.com/evanw/kiwi project that saved me from protobuff swamp monster hell
* Many open issues regarding module imports, for ex, when a CJS module imports an ES one [2]
Our current bottleneck with Webpack is actually sass-loader, taking at least 70% of the time during a fresh build, and we'd have the same problem with Vite.
Something else that is worth pointing out is the ecosystem: Webpack's community has built tons of plugins for basically any use case you can imagine, and version 5 supports module federation, persistent caching, externals (very handy when doing SSR), customisable filename generators, performance hints and so on. Totally different game.
Try to keep your build config simple, avoid too many loaders, plugins, and you should be fine 99% of the time. If you hit a wall, install speed-measure-webpack-plugin to get some help.
[1] https://github.com/webpack/webpack/issues/2933
[2] https://github.com/vitejs/vite/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen...
Also Trunk [0] for Rust-wasm web dev. It’s made me not hate doing the front end for my projects. I look forward to the Rust web ecosystem evolving to the point where I can recommend it in a work context.
[0] https://trunkrs.dev/
The thread was originally about CRA vs Vite size on disk (or implicitly, if we're applying it to real world applications, network cost in CI job startup times). And like I said, surrogate pairs don't apply to ASCII.
See this[0] for reference. Note how the first byte must fall within a certain range in order to signal being a surrogate pair. This fact is taken advantage of by JS parsers to make parsing of ASCII code faster by special casing that range, since checking for a valid character in the entire unicode range is quite a bit more expensive[1].
[0] https://github.com/jquery/esprima/blob/0911ad869928fd218371b...
[1] https://github.com/jquery/esprima/blob/0911ad869928fd218371b...