Show HN: Nue – Apps lighter than a React button

1. nue

   1 19 8,774 9.8 JavaScript

   Standards first web framework taking HTML, CSS, JS, and WASM to their peak

   

   Spreading arrays and objects is such a common performance hit. It works fine for small instances but falls over in large instances.

   Here's the JS CRM engine https://github.com/nuejs/nue/blob/master/packages/examples/s...

   I see a number of issues, but don't have time to look into them.

   1. Spreading when you probably don't need a copy: sortEntries. Sorting is probably where the overflow happens. Just sort in place or use Array.from or slice.

2. SurveyJS

   surveyjs.io featured

   JavaScript Form Builder with No-Code UI & Built-In JSON Schema Editor. Keep full control over the data you collect and tailor the form builder’s entire look and feel to your users’ needs. SurveyJS works with React, Angular, Vue 3, and is compatible with any backend or auth system. Learn more.

   

3. Svelte

   2 719 83,396 9.9 JavaScript

   web development for the rest of us

   

4. react-virtualized

   3 51 26,859 5.0 JavaScript

   React components for efficiently rendering large lists and tabular data

   

   Make a demo with react-virtualized[0] and see if it crashes. Hint: It will not[1]. React can easily render 1 million rows with high performance without relying on WASM [2]

   Here is the demo of react-virtualized[3], in which I entered 10m as the row count and scrolled to the bottom without crashing.

   [0] https://github.com/bvaughn/react-virtualized

5. esbuild

   4 360 39,129 9.2 Go

   An extremely fast bundler for the web

   

6. Alpine.js

   5 270 30,025 7.1 HTML

   A rugged, minimal framework for composing JavaScript behavior in your markup.

   

7. miu

   6 1 0 9.3 JavaScript

   A small JavaScript data binding library

   

   I really like how Nue is shaping up! Having a clear MVC separation, leveraging modern web standards, semantic markup—all great things. Kudos!

   Seeing the .dhtml extension certainly brings back memories... One thing I dislike is that the HTML is still parsed and interpreted into JS, correct? I realize that this is required to support templating and a nicer syntax for binding and such, but my ideal framework would support plain HTML files that are not converted to JS, but used very lightweight syntax (essentially custom data attributes, and `` elements) to make the page dynamic. In fact, I'm experimenting with such a library right now[1]. This approach is likely more difficult to manage when building large web apps, but for simple UIs as used in browser extensions, it's fairly sufficient.

   Frontend web development has been stuck in a pit of complexity for well over a decade now, and it's about time we go back to basics. There are new generations of frontend developers who only know this way of working, which is a shame. They're not really _web_ developers, but React, Vue, or whatever the popular framework is, developers. Web standards are far along now that there is very little additional glue and sugar needed to build modern web applications. React ushered in a new way of building UIs, but it also spawned dozens of copycats and frameworks that are downright developer-hostile beyond their shiny exterior. Not to mention the security nightmare of an incomprehensibly large dependency tree. Let's actively reject this madness.

   [1]: https://github.com/hackfixme/miu

8. Preact

   7 129 37,788 9.5 JavaScript

   ⚛️ Fast 3kB React alternative with the same modern API. Components & Virtual DOM.

   

   Compare React and Preact:

   https://preactjs.com/

   I use Preact often and very, very rarely run into an issue that justifies React being almost 20x the size.

9. InfluxDB

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   InfluxDB – Built for High-Performance Time Series Workloads. InfluxDB 3 OSS is now GA. Transform, enrich, and act on time series data directly in the database. Automate critical tasks and eliminate the need to move data externally. Download now.

   

10. bootsharp

    8 7 738 7.0 C#

    Use C# in web apps with comfort

    

    It's not that you can't; it's that you choose not to. There are end-to-end solutions for C#, for example, that are perfectly fine depending on your use case (not great for all use cases).

    There are also libraries like Bootsharp[1] that are doing interesting things, IMO.

    [0] https://google.github.io/styleguide/jsguide.html#jsdoc

    [1] https://sharp.elringus.com/

11. react-hook-form

    9 248 43,493 9.2 TypeScript

    📋 React Hooks for form state management and validation (Web + React Native)

    

    "Instant" can mean different things to different people.

    I have an HTMX/Flask/Bootstrap app that feels instant for most requests on the LAN, except when it doesn't.

    Often React apps are pretty snappy, but if you want to do complex data validation on controlled forms, where the state updates for every keystroke, it can drag you down. There are good frameworks for doing uncontrolled forms in a disciplined way

    https://react-hook-form.com/

    but it's another thing to add to your bundle. React is also not fast enough to do animations so you have a lot of .show/.hide (or display: none) CSS has facilities to do transitions and animations that are pretty good but I always find it a little nervewracking for a JS application to have state in React state variables and any other kind of state. Some ImGUI frameworks have components that look superficially like React components but are fast enough to animate every frame, which makes me feel like I am in control and get the animation to look exactly what I want.

12. fixi

    10 9 831 9.3 HTML

    

    We also created fixi, which is sort of preact to htmx’s react:

    https://github.com/bigskysoftware/fixi

    a goal of fixi is to be smaller uncompressed than preact is compressed, to force us to be minimalist

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