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  1. xkbcat

    simple sudoless X11 keylogger

    > Yes, X11 programs can maliciously keylog each other, but this just isn't a thing that actually happens.

    A simple search leads me to this: https://github.com/anko/xkbcat

    There isn't a real attack using it yet, only because it is a really unprofitable endeavor (considering the marketshare, the ROI must be very low).

    > To actually be safe while installing and running malicious applications you need extensive sandboxing

    FWIW, X11 is unsandboxable unless you run a second X server on top of your current server [0]. Which is fine, but you need to consider that most, if not all sandboxing solutions on Linux that "newbs" use, like Flatpak, do not employ such technique when running sandboxed X11 applications.

    The "security by default" behavior of Wayland limits the possible attack surface a lot, without requiring the end user to understand all the nitty details involved.

    [0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bubblewrap#Sandboxing_X11

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  3. awesome

    awesome window manager (by awesomeWM)

    While the argument of "I deal with X11-based WMs because it's fine when I don't care about security at all" may be valid in very narrow cases (such as air-gapped systems), the argument more generally is pretty weak.

    Its not surpising that x11 based WMs, such as the almighty [awesomeWM](https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome), have more features implemented than, for instance, [jay](https://github.com/mahkoh/jay) due to the enormous time it has had to develop (though I am _very_ excited to see `jay` develop more fully, and expect it to be well used by the more tech-savy devs).

    However, some WMs in the Wayland space are doing quite well on that front. I recently had some substantial problems arise in my system which (surprisingly to me, but perhaps some are getting used to this) would have been prevented by using a memory safety language for my WM, so I have made the switch to (for better or worse) only ever consider Wayland+Rust WMs. In this space, [niri](https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri) is actually quite good, and to the point - it is developing correctly _and very quickly_. So, any issues on some WM not implementing some desired feature are quickly disappearing.

    IIRC, all the major 'gateway' linux distros, such as Ubuntu or Fedora, are all on Wayland by default now - so I don't imagine x11 will stay relevant much longer.

  4. jay

    A Wayland Compositor

    While the argument of "I deal with X11-based WMs because it's fine when I don't care about security at all" may be valid in very narrow cases (such as air-gapped systems), the argument more generally is pretty weak.

    Its not surpising that x11 based WMs, such as the almighty [awesomeWM](https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome), have more features implemented than, for instance, [jay](https://github.com/mahkoh/jay) due to the enormous time it has had to develop (though I am _very_ excited to see `jay` develop more fully, and expect it to be well used by the more tech-savy devs).

    However, some WMs in the Wayland space are doing quite well on that front. I recently had some substantial problems arise in my system which (surprisingly to me, but perhaps some are getting used to this) would have been prevented by using a memory safety language for my WM, so I have made the switch to (for better or worse) only ever consider Wayland+Rust WMs. In this space, [niri](https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri) is actually quite good, and to the point - it is developing correctly _and very quickly_. So, any issues on some WM not implementing some desired feature are quickly disappearing.

    IIRC, all the major 'gateway' linux distros, such as Ubuntu or Fedora, are all on Wayland by default now - so I don't imagine x11 will stay relevant much longer.

  5. niri

    A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor.

    While the argument of "I deal with X11-based WMs because it's fine when I don't care about security at all" may be valid in very narrow cases (such as air-gapped systems), the argument more generally is pretty weak.

    Its not surpising that x11 based WMs, such as the almighty [awesomeWM](https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome), have more features implemented than, for instance, [jay](https://github.com/mahkoh/jay) due to the enormous time it has had to develop (though I am _very_ excited to see `jay` develop more fully, and expect it to be well used by the more tech-savy devs).

    However, some WMs in the Wayland space are doing quite well on that front. I recently had some substantial problems arise in my system which (surprisingly to me, but perhaps some are getting used to this) would have been prevented by using a memory safety language for my WM, so I have made the switch to (for better or worse) only ever consider Wayland+Rust WMs. In this space, [niri](https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri) is actually quite good, and to the point - it is developing correctly _and very quickly_. So, any issues on some WM not implementing some desired feature are quickly disappearing.

    IIRC, all the major 'gateway' linux distros, such as Ubuntu or Fedora, are all on Wayland by default now - so I don't imagine x11 will stay relevant much longer.

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