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  • Flutter

    Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond

    > How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong.

    I doubt google have even 50 flutter devs in their team. You can easily estimate by checking github pulse:

    https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly

    https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse/monthly

    Also take into account inflated commits by CI bots: engine-flutter-autoroll, skia-flutter-autoroll, auto-submit[bot], fluttergithubbot, flutter-pub-roller-bot

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  • engine

    The Flutter engine (by flutter)

    > How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong.

    I doubt google have even 50 flutter devs in their team. You can easily estimate by checking github pulse:

    https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly

    https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse/monthly

    Also take into account inflated commits by CI bots: engine-flutter-autoroll, skia-flutter-autoroll, auto-submit[bot], fluttergithubbot, flutter-pub-roller-bot

  • Google Web Toolkit

    GWT Open Source Project

    No, it handed it to a foundation after signaling it would for well over a year:

    "In 2011 with the introduction of the Dart programming language, Google stated that GWT would continue to be supported for the foreseeable future while also hinting at a possible rapprochement between the two Google approaches to structured web programming. However, they also mentioned that several of the engineers previously working on GWT are now working on Dart.[6]"

    It funded/helped the foundation for some number of years after that.

    It still is going, afaik, with gwt 2.11 being released in january, 2024.

    https://www.gwtproject.org/

  • sdk

    The Dart SDK, including the VM, JS and Wasm compilers, analysis, core libraries, and more.

    https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/graphs/contributors

    As for flutterfoundation.dev, it appears to be just Matt? Who used to be employed at Google and reported to me on the Flutter team but is no longer.

  • flutter

    Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond (by join-the-flock)

  • LibChecker

    An app to view libraries used in apps in your device.

    >Flutter two finger scroll "bug" is gone.

    Why is "bug" in scare quotes here? It was most definitely a bug.

    >I wouldn't say its unlikely they carried a patch for it, I just wrote a framework patch that I apply at build time in CI and locally.

    The actual fix was pretty involved. I doubt a large company like Bytedance would want to carry around extra patches at the gesture level that make the dev cycle more difficult. Having one person carry a patch on their local machine is a different story.

    Anyway, the Bytedance blogpost says only 200 devs are using Flutter which would make no sense if it was used in Douyin, and LibChecker[0] returns no results for libflutter.so.

    [0] https://github.com/LibChecker/LibChecker

  • CPython

    The Python programming language

    Citation? They're all in the same repo, so any stats that OP pulls will cover the whole standard library:

    https://github.com/python/cpython/tree/main/Lib

  • homebrew-core

    🍻 Default formulae for the missing package manager for macOS (or Linux)

    I'm in the camp of "if I can't build it, then it's not open source" so https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/d314f3ebba9e7... is a good start, but there is no .../f/flutter.rb although there is https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=flutt... but I haven't been soaking in the AUR ecosystem long enough to be able to port it to Homebrew

    All those words to say that if there was a .github/workflow/release.yml showing the steps required to cook a release artifact that would be the best(?) documentation since it is kind of like a Dockerfile in that it's computer executable but mostly human readable

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