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  1. Flutter

    Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond

    > How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong.

    I doubt google have even 50 flutter devs in their team. You can easily estimate by checking github pulse:

    https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly

    https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse/monthly

    Also take into account inflated commits by CI bots: engine-flutter-autoroll, skia-flutter-autoroll, auto-submit[bot], fluttergithubbot, flutter-pub-roller-bot

  2. Shorebird

    Shorebird - Patch in minutes not days. Shorebird powers rapid development with CodePush and optimized CI pipelines designed specifically for Flutter.

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  3. engine

    Discontinued The Flutter engine (by flutter)

    > How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong.

    I doubt google have even 50 flutter devs in their team. You can easily estimate by checking github pulse:

    https://github.com/flutter/flutter/pulse/monthly

    https://github.com/flutter/engine/pulse/monthly

    Also take into account inflated commits by CI bots: engine-flutter-autoroll, skia-flutter-autoroll, auto-submit[bot], fluttergithubbot, flutter-pub-roller-bot

  4. Google Web Toolkit

    GWT Open Source Project

    No, it handed it to a foundation after signaling it would for well over a year:

    "In 2011 with the introduction of the Dart programming language, Google stated that GWT would continue to be supported for the foreseeable future while also hinting at a possible rapprochement between the two Google approaches to structured web programming. However, they also mentioned that several of the engineers previously working on GWT are now working on Dart.[6]"

    It funded/helped the foundation for some number of years after that.

    It still is going, afaik, with gwt 2.11 being released in january, 2024.

    https://www.gwtproject.org/

  5. sdk

    The Dart SDK, including the VM, JS and Wasm compilers, analysis, core libraries, and more.

    https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/graphs/contributors

    As for flutterfoundation.dev, it appears to be just Matt? Who used to be employed at Google and reported to me on the Flutter team but is no longer.

  6. flutter

    Discontinued Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond [GET https://api.github.com/repos/join-the-flock/flutter: 404 - Not Found // See: https://docs.github.com/rest/repos/repos#get-a-repository] (by join-the-flock)

  7. LibChecker

    An app to view libraries used in apps in your device.

    >Flutter two finger scroll "bug" is gone.

    Why is "bug" in scare quotes here? It was most definitely a bug.

    >I wouldn't say its unlikely they carried a patch for it, I just wrote a framework patch that I apply at build time in CI and locally.

    The actual fix was pretty involved. I doubt a large company like Bytedance would want to carry around extra patches at the gesture level that make the dev cycle more difficult. Having one person carry a patch on their local machine is a different story.

    Anyway, the Bytedance blogpost says only 200 devs are using Flutter which would make no sense if it was used in Douyin, and LibChecker[0] returns no results for libflutter.so.

    [0] https://github.com/LibChecker/LibChecker

  8. CPython

    The Python programming language

    Citation? They're all in the same repo, so any stats that OP pulls will cover the whole standard library:

    https://github.com/python/cpython/tree/main/Lib

  9. SaaSHub

    SaaSHub - Software Alternatives and Reviews. SaaSHub helps you find the best software and product alternatives

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  10. homebrew-core

    🍻 Default formulae for the missing package manager for macOS (or Linux)

    I'm in the camp of "if I can't build it, then it's not open source" so https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/d314f3ebba9e7... is a good start, but there is no .../f/flutter.rb although there is https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=flutt... but I haven't been soaking in the AUR ecosystem long enough to be able to port it to Homebrew

    All those words to say that if there was a .github/workflow/release.yml showing the steps required to cook a release artifact that would be the best(?) documentation since it is kind of like a Dockerfile in that it's computer executable but mostly human readable

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