Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it

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  • quiet

    A private, p2p alternative to Slack and Discord built on Tor & IPFS

    My team is building Quiet, an alternative to team chat apps like Slack and Discord that works as you describe:

    https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/#readme

    > Granted, sending a message would require all parties to be online at the same time, but there could be a set of relay servers to hold messages until they get fetched.

    We actually do a bit better than this! We use a gossip network (libp2p gossipsub) so all peers don't have to connect directly, and a CRDT over a private IPFS network so that everyone in a community eventually syncs all messages. As long as there's a continuity of online peers, the availability of messages is the same as a central server, and with a few Android users in the mix it's pretty easy to get to that level of continuity.

    (The battery impact of staying connected all the time isn't as bad as you'd think, and we haven't even begun to optimize it.)

    And yes, it builds on the maturity of Tor rather than trying to roll its own onion routing layer as Session is doing.

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  • ricochet-refresh

    Anonymous peer-to-peer instant messaging

  • real-world-onion-sites

    This is a list of substantial, commercial-or-social-good mainstream websites which provide onion services.

    Yes. I don't get ambushed by illegal content, as most of my surfing with Tor is for browsing the clearnet, (which is fairly innocuous and more sanitized than the dark web). I do use the 'real world' onions[0] to read The New York Times, etc

    [0] https://github.com/alecmuffett/real-world-onion-sites

  • alternative-front-ends

    Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms (e.g. YouTube, Twitter, etc.)

    I use Tor for everything that doesn't require identification, and I use very few of those services. Feel free to ask me anything.

    >There are sites that I have been unable to get working

    This happens, most of the time because of Cloudflare. A solution is to get a new Tor circuit 3-5 times, and then the page will load. If a site simply won't work, like Meta platforms I won't use them. Using alternative front-ends[1] makes most sites that usually wouldn't work, work as well.

    >The Tor browser does help here, by not easily allowing obvious mistakes like using http.

    This is false, HTTPS only is enabled by default in Tor Browser. It's common knowledge for everyone including users of Google Chrome and Firefox to not use HTTP sites.

    [1]: https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends

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